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Conor McGregor Megathread *Mod Warning in OP Updated 20th April*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,406 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Perhaps. But I would also contend that considering being against rape "Virtue Signalling" is just a different way to say the same thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    He won't be able to do that without a huge PR program, which is why you have the likes of Candine doing stupid videos to cover up for him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,406 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Maybe she does. But Cancade Owens is a far-right huckster who says the Moon Landings are fake, that Brigitte Macron is secretly a man, says that jews were behind the killing of JFK and has some weird views on Hitler just being a "Nationalist"

    Forgive me if I skip her video on Conor McGregor's trial.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭LastApacheInjun


    I don't know why I'm doing this, but it's Friday afternoon and I'm stuck in the office so…

    The CCTV does not conflict with the physical medical evidence. The video images cannot determine whether a person has a tampon stuck at their cervix nor would it show the bruising which would take 24-48 hours to show up. As detailed by the professional medical staff. At the trial. In front of the jury.

    You can say that the CCTV brings into doubt the psychological trauma she says she suffered as a result of the rape. Except again, it doesn't. However counter-intuitive it may feel, the psychiatrist at the trial stated that people react very differently to shock, and that her behaviour in the video was not unreasonable in someone suffering from delayed shock, especially in light of the amount of alcohol and drugs taken.

    I don't know who this Candice lady is and I'd imagine I wouldn't like her, so I won't be adding to her clicks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,434 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    The mentioning of the CCTV contradicting the medical evidence. It’s just really dumb to bring that up.. shows next to no cop on



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭Quango Unchained


    ‘Yes there’s a victim and a monster. Yes there’s a villain. But this story has absolutely no hero.’

    https://ewanmackenna.wordpress.com/2024/11/28/yes-theres-a-victim-and-a-monster-yes-theres-a-villain-but-this-story-has-absolutely-no-hero/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,052 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    They are absolutely fair points that i agree on. But i can see why the CCTV footage gave the DPP pause on charging him….it's not a simple clear cut case to make.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,434 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    very good read. And I agree with a lot of the points he makes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,052 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    That's an excellent article and I'd agree with most of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,247 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “Conor McGregor was made a hero we should follow, when he should never have been.”

    Speak for yourself Ewan- most people always thought of him as an asshole- he was certainly never a hero.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    He's labelling the decision of businesses not to sell a rapist's alcohol to be based on being PC. I'm lost on how that could be construed as being PC gone mad. On top of that it's pretty clearly an economic decision which he appears to be ignoring .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,406 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Exactly.

    Company stops stocking McGregor's products because he's found liable for rape.

    Said company is "Woke" for doing so.

    It's quite clearly saying that being anti-rapist is "woke".

    No right-thinking person would actually REALLY hold this opinion. In my opinion it's the symptom of too much time spent in right-wing echo-chambers calling anything even remotely centrist or left-wing "woke". It stopped making sense a long time ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭rightmove


    but I wanted your opinion - not "its up to the retailer"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,434 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Just on the costs ruling. I wonder will the jury have explained to the judge why they found Lawrence not liable for sexual assault (rape)…

    Their verdict here surely has to have real significance in the overall….

    Two reasons: 1. They believed Lawrence and Ms Hand has consensual sex or 2 they did not believe his allegation that they had sex (consensual or non-consensual)

    Here’s the thing: if they found him not liable due to reason 1, why find McGregor liable? Stands to reason they then believe that her injuries were caused by McGregor in the act of raping her, but that after this ordeal she then had consensual sex with Lawrence.. but this reasoning doesn’t really add up.. has to be reason 2, surely..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭LastApacheInjun


    It's clear from Ewan MacKenna's article that he believes McGregor and disbelieves Ms Hand.

    If he believed Ms Hand, that she was raped, he would hardly be trying to take her down by saying how she treated her boyfriend and child over those 24 hours as "disgusting". It's clear from the article because he says "It’s then she claims the rape took place, something the jury agreed with, thus we must too." It's clear that he doesn't but he can't say that, so instead he tries to bring her down because of what he calls her disgusting behaviour over the course of that 24 hours.

    Lets break down what he is actually calling disgusting:

    • She got horrendously drunk despite being a mother. I mean, where do I go with this.
    • She took cocaine despite being a mother. It's not great, but it's far more widespread in the under-30's now then 20 years ago. Most younger people would put taking cocaine on a par with getting drunk. No more and no less morally reprehensible. She wasn't in charge of her daughter at the time, it wasn't like she was getting drunk and high while looking after her.
    • While drunk and high she tagged someone she vaguely knew in pics of herself - fully clothed - on a night out, despite having a boyfriend. Now, lets point out he's not saying she is disgusting because she shagged someone in the toilets during her Christmas party. He's not saying she's disgusting because she sent nude photos of herself to another man. No, he's saying she's disgusting because she tagged another man in photos of her at her Christmas party on a public platform that her boyfriend could clearly see.
    • While drunk and high she called another man and asked him to take her and her mate to an after party, despite having a boyfriend. Again, not great, probably something you'd have an argument with your boyfriend about after the fact and you'd have to apologise for, but hardly disgusting.

    And because of the above, we should not be admiring her for her actions since those 24 hours.

    The reason why people admire Ms Hand (and it is exclusively those who believe she was raped)

    • She reported the rape to the Gardai. This requires an enormous amount of bravery.
    • She put up with harassment, both online and locally once people became aware that she had reported the rape.
    • She had to deal with the blow that, despite her reporting the rape, being subject to an internal examination in order to collect evidence, the DPP was not going to pursue criminal action.
    • She had to engage solicitors and detail again the rape to them in order to commence a civil action.
    • She had to deal with a break in and her boyfriend being stabbed while her daughter was in the house, and despite this continued with her civil case.
    • She gave evidence over the course of the civil trial of the rape and had to endure the defence team and her rapist calling her a liar and suggesting that she enjoyed the rape and that she probably slept with multiple men.
    • Finally she likely turned down a settlement offer in order to drop the case. Obviously we have no blatant evidence of this, but most people would believe that McGregor would have offered a substantial sum.

    I don't think anything about her behaviour during those 24 hours should negate the admiration for what she has done since.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,373 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭rightmove


    no not having an opinion is not having an opinion.

    why post anything then



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,406 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Sometimes not having an opinion is a much better option than filtering something through your politican viewpoints and putting forth a "take" in the guise of an informed viewpoint.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Woodcutting




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,032 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    40 euro from what what I can see online. There's a few retailers still selling it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭50HX


    Joe Molloy of Indo sport has an excellent podcast on the demise of Conor Mc with a conversation at the end with a Washington based journo re the impact of the trial on Mcgregor stateside.

    I had forgotten what he had achieved UFC wise but they outline excellently his decline in behaviour & how we irish never really accepted it yet it was kinda lapped up stateside ..all part of the UFC juggernaut.

    It's well worth a listen



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,434 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    excellent post. Yes, he wants to come out and say McGregor did not rape her, but he’s skirting around it using morals and principles and standards etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Woodcutting


    I don't know much about whiskey but I bought a 700ml Paddy for 22 euro last week .

    Edit : I see P12 for 35 euro 70 cl which is 700ml as far as I understand . 13 euro more than Paddy but I bought it in Dunnes ,maybe they can buy larger quantities



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    You'll get some pretty nice starter stuff at the 40 euro mark. Eg teelings. Nobody who is into whiskey is picking up Proper 12.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,247 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    And to add, from the same link :


    “So let’s talk about Nikita Hand for a moment, for we know what McGregor is – some of us for longer than others – and we know what he has been found liable of in a civil not criminal court.

    Is anyone going to have the courage to say it? Anyone at all?

    That her treatment of her child and then boyfriend was downright disgusting?

    That her inability as a 28-year-old to control her use of drugs and alcohol was ridiculous?

    That her chasing of McGregor was nasty and pathetic?

    That her desperation for a little more cocaine was demeaning?“


    Those comments are in the same vein of “her skirt was too short and she was asking for it.” I thought we’d moved on from those times

    Post edited by Oscar_Madison on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,937 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    McKenna is a narcisstic fvcking parasite whos been living off being named sports writer of the year in 2012 as some kind of basis for people to listen and agree with his disgusting bigotry.

    The less attention paid to him the better



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,373 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    What? I can't make you understand but I'll write it again for you. My opinion is that it is up to retailers what products they want or do not want to stock.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    This.

    P12 is probably only good for mixing or getting drunk. If you actually like whiskey, this would never grace your lips.

    In or around that budget is Roe & Co. which is a little cracker of a whiskey.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,406 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins




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