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Israel are going to start WWIII

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,809 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    I read of a Rabbi killed in UAE recently - Israel was straight out the blocks with the anti semitic accusations whilst the incident was still under investigation. Hasbara at its finest.

    The double standards and hypocrisy both here and in some of the media is astounding.

    If the two alleged Israeli war criminals were targeted with bunker busters, that would of course be simply unthinkable…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    Here you are again pushing the lizard people Zionists are ruling the world conspiracy theory (which falls apart when you ask why then October 7th happened)

    How about applying Ocamms Razor, that Israeli current government are a bunch of despicables and the current US administration is run by someone who considers this bunch the lesser of two evils, while the next administration won’t even be so nuanced and just want to build Trump resorts from the river to the sea

    Especially enjoyed how you tried to paint Putin’s despicable puppy in Hungary, 10/10 for hilarious attempt



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    If you think that both sides of the political divide in the US, UK, France etc, etc, supporting Israel, supplying weapons to wanted war criminals without question is a conspiracy theory you will have to explain why?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    The zionists have officially prohibited any government official or body from communicating with, or advertising in, one of the largest newspapers in the country in retaliation for some negative coverage of their genocide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,819 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Bibi and Trump do seem to share alot of negative traits with respect to their handling of negative press. I wonder if Israelis will start realising their domestic media coverage of the conflict is at odds with some of the international press coverage.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,000 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Its bemusing that we're supposed to pretend that either the extensive network of pro-zionist lobby groups - often either directly funded by israel or closely involved with israel - throughout the US, UK and Europe either a) doesn't exist, or b) has spent the last century having no effect on policy towards israel.

    What we are supposed to believe is that US/European totalitarian support for and assistance to a genocide carried out by israel just spontaneously self-organised in all these different countries in and around the same time by coincidence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,809 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Added to already chucking out Al Jazeera.

    Oh, and murdering hundreds of journalists and banning the rest.

    Hardly surprising though seeing as other nations doing the same are also headed up by alleged War Criminals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    It’s amazing despite the banning of independent reporting in Gaza, the censorship of journalism, banning of news organisations and murder of journalists, the MSM give the country committing war crimes favourable coverage, even skewing facts that would threaten the positive narrative, like the Amsterdam Pogrom.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,809 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    This from Aluf Benn, Haaretz Editor-in-Chief:

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in his pursuit of unchecked power, is trying to boycott Haaretz in the hope that he can silence us. It is happening while his government is dismantling all checks and balances and crushing the gatekeepers of democracy.

    Netanyahu wants to rule an Israel free of an independent judiciary, turning the police and security organs into private militias – and of course without a free and critical media standing in his way.

    The Israeli government's decision to impose sanctions on Haaretz is just one more step in the prime minister's journey of destruction. We are not deterred by the threats made by Netanyahu and his propaganda machine.

    We will not capitulate, and we will continue serving our readers and protecting our journalistic freedom with only the public interest in mind.

    Haaretz is Israel's oldest newspaper



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,809 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    The below list is also from Haaretz. Some very interesting items.

    • IRAN: Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said that death sentences, not ICC arrest warrants, should be issued for Israeli leaders.

    • ISRAEL: Despite dozens of cases of detainees dying while in Israeli army custody since the war began, the IDF has only brought to trial 15 indicted soldiers for war-related offenses, Haaretz has learned. Of these offenses, most concern theft and arms trading, and none pertain to incidents causing death of a detainee.

    • An Israeli strike that killed three journalists and wounded others in Lebanon on October 25 was most likely a deliberate attack on civilians and an apparent war crime, Human Rights Watch said, adding that the attack used a bomb equipped with a U.S.-produced Joint Direct Attack Munition guidance kit. There was no immediate comment from the IDF on the report. The group said the U.S. government should suspend weapons transfers to Israel because of the military's repeated "unlawful attacks on civilians, for which U.S. officials may be complicit in war crimes."

    • 11 other journalists have been killed and eight wounded since the October 25 strike. The journalists killed in the October 25 strike were camera operator Ghassan Najjar and broadcast technician Mohammed Rida of the Hezbollah-affiliated Al-Mayadeen, and camera operator Wissam Qassim, who worked for Hezbollah's Al-Manar TV.

    • Spanish airline Air Europa announced that it would continue to suspend flights to Israel through December 17.

    • Three days before the ICC issued arrest warrants, Israel's Attorney General Gali Baharav-Miara accepted the State Prosecutor's recommendation not to investigate statements suspected of incitement to harm civilians in Gaza made by senior public officials, including Netanyahu and former Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, sources told Haaretz. The statements reviewed by the State Prosecutor's Office were also presented to the International Court of Justice as part of South Africa's genocide petition against Israel.

    "The goal of replacing Yoav Gallant with Israel Katz as Defense Minister is becoming clearer. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu put Katz there to light fires in the defense establishment –

    and Katz is doing what is expected of him" – Amos Harel



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,967 ✭✭✭buried


    This is f**king mighty. The global homogenous neo-liberal $hit-show led by the U$A, and its leash master Israel, is doing stellar work in making the f**king eegits in this part of the world that worshipped their pogrom's for the last 40 years, finally question it. Keep it up you simps. We'll finally get rid of ye yet.

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,121 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I just can't remember who it was that acted like Netanyahu in the past. History repeating itself and yet some will still back him.There are people very close to him who should see the resemblance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,819 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Well he's definitely in the same boat as Putin now. Being accused of crimes against humanity should be a bigger issue for the pro israeli posters here, but some are still shrugging it off as nothing significant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,634 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Israeli deputy defence minister ( I think ), saying the ICC has no authority and Israel didn’t sign up to the treaty . Basically giving two fingers up to everyone saying F-you America backs us .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,819 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Well he is not wrong that the US backs them. But Israel must recognise this is causing long term damage to their international reputation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,121 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Doesn't matter a damn. There's arrest warrants out for Bibi and Gallant and that's what's worrying them. They are in the same boat as Hitler, Pol Pot etc now. Genocidal maniacs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,634 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I know , but they know they’ll never be arrested .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭CliffHangeroner


    Sounds like a certain European country in 1939 that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭Sir_Name


    Fingers crossed this is actually true - I am surprised Israel would agree considering it wouldn't be the end of Hezbollah as they would want it.

    Ceasefire deal between Israel and Hezbollah looks imminent, officials say | Reuters



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    I heard some White House spokesman being tied up in knots by journalists about this. They say the ICC doesn’t have jurisdiction over Israeli war crimes in Gaza but the ICC does have jurisdiction over Russian war crimes in Ukraine. Despite jurisdiction being in place in Palestine since 2015 and jurisdiction in Ukraine coming into effect on January 1st 2025.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,710 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Well, that's largely predicated on why America is your "ally" in the first place. Hussain believed he could get away with anything because he thought he had the US on his side, but found out differently in the 90's.

    America's interest in Iraq was purely what was in the ground and not the people on top of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,710 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    There was a Rabbi on the radio the other day (LBC) that mentioned that a lot of people in Israel actually tune into Al Jazera to get their news, because they believe that their own media coverage has been badly compromised/censored.

    Given Netanyahu's attempts to marginalise Haaretz recently, I think that they may have a point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,307 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Interesting polling in the UK. It shows Starmer and his Zionist cabinet are completely out of synch with even their own voters:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    Putin too, the favourite modern dictator of some of the posters here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    If it is true, it maybe a sign that Israel knows they can't achieve the goals of the war through military means- they seem to be struggling to dislodge Hezbollah from Southern Lebanon despite the intense bombardment. It also could be a tacit admission that while Hezbollah have been severely degraded, the IDF cannot inflict a total defeat on them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,121 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Bombing your enemy from the air is one thing, going in on foot is another, and Israel has learned from past experiences. If they didn't have American weapons they'd have nothing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,000 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Its hard to read it as anything other than a defeat for israel. Despite having every advantage, they were unable to defeat Hezbollah, unable to advance to secure a buffer zone to protect their northern settlements and are now having to seek a truce.

    I wonder if it will hold though. It wouldn't be the first time Biden has overpromised and underdelivered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,834 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Sky news

    More fire from Israeli forces in southern Lebanon

    Israel, for the second time since the ceasefire came into force, has said its troops have fired shots in southern Lebanon.

    "Over the past few hours, the IDF identified suspects in southern Lebanon and fired toward them," the IDF said. 

    "The IDF remains in southern Lebanon and will actively enforce every violation of the ceasefire agreement."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,121 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,834 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Very disappointing from France

    We've just received a statement from the French foreign ministry that implies Benjamin Netanyahu has immunity from the International Criminal Court arrest warrant in his name. 

    The French appear to base their argument on the fact that Israel is not a party to the court.

    "France will respect its international obligations, it being understood that the Rome Statute requires full cooperation with the International Criminal Court (ICC) and also provides that a state cannot be required to act in a manner inconsistent with its obligations under international law with respect to the immunities of states not party to the ICC," the ministry said in a statement. 

    "Such immunities apply to Prime Minister Netanyahu and the other ministers concerned and must be taken into account should the ICC request their arrest and surrender."

    No doubt it’s all to do with the Lebanon CF deal that France was a big part of securing. It’s utter bs, by that metric it doesn’t apply to putin either then. Such a farce.



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