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Who are you giving your #1 vote to on Friday?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    I posted proof that house prices gone up less than inflation

    So yes once you take inflation into account house prices have been going down

    Almost two decades after us having too many homes not only prices not kept up with inflation, for those who viewed their homes as in investment that turned out to be a **** investment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    As I've already posted we are the 12 the safest place to live in the world.

    We are spending the surplus on:

    new dart trains Battery electric units and fully electric units

    electrifying existing railway as part of dart +

    unprecedented upgrade of the national electricity grid

    renewable energy generation

    new luas lines for example Luas finglas which is now with ABP and gone for RO

    New EV busses

    electrifying bus depots

    cycle lanes

    greenways

    new motorway for example the M20 cork to limerick motorway

    upgrades to the water and sewage grid nationally

    etc etc

    This is not including increases and continuing payment of a social welfare safety net for the most vulnerable in society.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,567 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    In a similar position, I really like our local Labour reps but Ivana Bacik is a detestable sexist with a proven track-record of lying to, and misrepresenting her electorate (albeit in Student Politics, it's still a clear demonstration of her lack of integrity). I'll probably give SD's the number 1 but will be holding the nose where Labour are concerned and giving them a high preference while hoping Bacik loses her seat and the leadership.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Aontu seem to be eating the Independent Ireland & micro far-right parties lunch so far

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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    Your last report was from 2020.

    I'd bet we have slipped down the list since then.

    Who are the most vulnerable in society in your opinion?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Dingaan


    My first preference will go to Aontú. I feel politically homeless, as I suspect many others do in Ireland. The choices are absolutely horrible.

    SocDems, Labour, Greens, PBP, and SF will be at the bottom of my preferences due to their absolutely repulsive ideologies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Apologies, here is a more recent report where Ireland is ranked 3rd in the world, so we have got safer since 2020:

    Top 10 Safest Countries in the World 2024 (geeksforgeeks.org)

    out of interest, why did you think Ireland had got less safe since 2020?

    I would consider the most vulnerable in society those on SW.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭who what when


    @tom1ie Fair play for pointing out some of the positive stuff. No doubt there's plenty we need to improve upon but the fact remains that there's few better places to live in the world!

    Personally i think we've moved too far to the left in the last twenty or so years and will be voting accordingly.



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    I am genuinely shocked at that but thanks for the updated report.

    I can honestly say that in my area particularly, there is an opposite feeling when it comes to safety. Crime is rife and and there seems to be little to no police presence. And even when people are arrested, they are given a slap on the wrist.

    I wouldn't necessarily consider people on SW the most vulnerable in society. I would consider families who are struggling to pay their bills/mortgage despite having two working adults and children in childcare as much more vulnerable than people who may be career SW receipients who are given houses and generous benefits. I am in no way demeaning people who use SW as a safety net and are in need of it to find their feet. Those people are of course vulnerable.

    I guess my point is, although you can show a report showing Ireland to be a great place to live, the reality for the vast majority of people I know is very, very different.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,239 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    That is the vast majority of people you say you know. I can state the polar opposite in all honestly.



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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    I don't deny that.

    Which is why everything and every opinion is valid. People will vote on how they feel issues are effecting THEM. If people are on the pigs back, and undoubtedly there are lots out there, they will continue to keep the current government in. However, the people who are disenfranchised with the state of their living conditions will vote for change.

    It's not useful for someone who is in fear for their safety, financially or literally, to read a report saying that everything is ok.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,239 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    That has always been the basis for most people's voting choices. Unfortunately people often have to see reports that don't coincide with their particular circumstances or views.



  • Posts: 118 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Do many parties apart from Sinn Fein support unity?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭bike2wkr


    Would like to see change and maybe a government that makes a difference and get stuff done faster and better value for money. However not much choice. Local FF guy in our area is very good so will vote for him. I think Aontu could be good but too few candidates. Voted for GP person last time out but never seen them plus objecting to housing so not voting for them again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    No absolutely, i get that working families are feeling the pressure as im part of that cohort, 3 kids and myself and the wife working.

    However i have seen a reduction:

    in childcare

    in Energy costs

    in free GP for kids

    i have seen an increase in double payments for child benefit

    However, profits by pivate companies are too high imo, ie CRH etc which is driving high prices in construction.

    Of course we need more houses but i know for a fact that there aren't any idle builders in the country, therefore we need to import more builders and qualified tradesmen to build more houses.

    No government is gonna be able to address this.

    No government is gonna be able to nationalise CRH or the likes to control the costs of materials- unless Paul Murphy becomes taoiseach 😀



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    Lol. Well if Paul Murphy becomes taoiseach, I will be uprooting my family and doing an Ellen Degeneris or will be claiming asylum in Algeria.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭Quango Unchained


    The strange thing about the Irish housing market over the last 25 years is that the greater the supply, the greater the price.

    If the economy is doing well and wages are very high relative to other regions within a huge economic bloc and there is the potential for half a billion people within such a bloc, to move and work here without any restrictions - you're going to suffer from all of the problems of a hot economy with creaking services and everything feeling very expensive.

    Donald Trump may try his best to put some ice on our economy. Things could be very different soon.

    Not sure exactly what our politicians can do about this. We're a small country and need to have respectable diplomatic politicians who can get on well with EU / UK and US. We're prisoners of geography.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 460 ✭✭Rooks


    "the greater the supply, the greater the price."

    Two things determine price. One is supply. The other is...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    If only we had some sort of election this week where all those going on about housing as their main concern could vote for a party that

    1. Build too many homes in past hence illustrating track record
    2. Drove the prices of all houses into the ground, where those prices still haven’t recovered when accounting for inflation 17 years later

    🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    Irelands national debt is €220 billion, thats about 42k for every man woman and child in the ROI.

    We have a massive housing crisis, 15,000 homeless.

    The current state of our health system is 3rd world, mental health issues are through the roof with little or no supports.

    The level of crime and general safety/security are at an all time high, prisons are full, check with IPS or CSO.

    We have a major shortage of Garda, more resigning and retiring than we can recruit and train, check recent class levels at Templemore Garda training college.

    Poor public transport and infrastructure for a so called 1st world country. That's why we all need a car to get to work on time.

    Immigration / Asylum policy crisis , no border force in place like the UK to streamline and to remove person/s whose cases are shown as leave to remain not granted. They just disappear from the radar of the INIS.

    I've about 10 yrs until I retire, I would be staying around. Better quality of life in most EU countries and that's where I will be moving to.

    The politician's are all talk and no action, nothing ever gets done, just broken promises.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Most of the points you raise here i have already dealt with in my previous posts.

    You are correct regarding the debt, but we also have yearly surplus on our budget which pay for the SW, and infrastructure we have and are building.

    We are increasing the houses we are building per year, but the ceiling on the amount we can build is the amount of builders we have which is currently fully utilised.

    Health needs to be addressed but has done for decades. We pump billions into it every year. its actually a massive issue but im not sure what party is offering an alternative?

    Ireland’s health system is one of the lowest performing in the northern hemisphere – The Irish Times

    Again ill point out that we are the 3rd safest country in the world.

    Bus connects, metrolink, dart+ all making there way through planning to name a few.

    What EU countries are better than Ireland to live in?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,911 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    spotted a small poster for my local FF candidate, stating just '300,000 new homes'

    lovely and ambitious. at 300k per home, that's €90bn. can we have seven more apple payouts please?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,692 ✭✭✭Fionn1952


    An awful lot of the talk around how much better other places are to live that I have heard are made with the assumption of having an Irish income in a lower CoL country, or from people who have no actual lived experience with the country they're talking about outside perhaps a holiday.

    I've plenty of criticism for FG and FF, but anyone who thinks anything about life in modern Ireland can be described as, 'Third World' can pretty much be disregarded as entirely unreasonable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Same. No fan of the government but anyone who says that Ireland is a "kip" or "third world country" is outing themselves as someone who is entirely ignorant to how most of the rest of the world lives.

    There is no greater indicator than how absurd those statements are than people are willingly trying to migrate to here in great numbers every year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Is that meant to be an argument for voting for FF?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    There is a very loud subsection of electorate for whom housing is the main issue, I suspect for majority who actually do vote it’s not even in top 10 issues (like me) seeing our high home ownership rates

    These people (like the Americans few weeks back) will vote all over the place despite overwhelming evidence of an economy that hasn’t been better ever

    in order for leopards to eat the face and crash the economy which they equate with affordable housing having forgotten all the misery last time we had a crash causes

    in parallel thread recently I asked people going on about greener fields, where exactly these fields are



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭kabakuyu




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    It all hinges on whether you’re a homeowner or not really

    If you’re 35 and under it can be a very very difficult place to live, and that’s only getting worse really

    Supply of houses is increasing but there’s already a massive surfeit of houses and the population is currently growing at an insane rate due to irregular inward migration (“the new normal”) …where are all of those people going to live?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭crusd


    One thing that people need to be educated on is government debt is not like personal debt and fatuous comparisons using a per head calculation are worse than useless. The key thing is is the debt serviceable not how must of it is there. The worst thing we could do for the country is reduce the debt. Just keep refinancing every few years and it gets inflated away as economy grows enabling future borrowing to invest in future infrastructure.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Agreed but a new government won’t change that.
    There aren’t enough builders or tradespeople.
    The electricity grid, water sewerage, gas, BB grids all need to be and are being upgraded to allow for this though and we are increasing the amount of housing being built.



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