Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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As you can see from the posts, it is in the works. But in 'Vanilla' hands so could take awhile.

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It didn't work out because the ethnic Russian regions of Ukraine revolted against what they saw as a violent, hostile regime being violently installed by the US against their wishes. There was uprisings and public protests against the coup all throughout southern and eastern Ukraine during early and mid 2014. The new regime managed to crush the anti-coup protestors in some parts (notably by burning protestors alive in Odessa in May 2014) but that only further radicalised and militarised the protestors in regions like Donetsk and Luhansk, who formed militias and held off the pro-regime forces in those regions. Russian forces only intervened later - a lot later than the militias had hoped for.

The dark secret the "friends of Ukraine" don't want to admit is that the conflict is primarily a civil war, with external powers backing both sides. Even during 2022-23 a very large proportion of the Russian forces were actually Donbass militiamen.

The Institute for the Study of War has released new figures on territorial transfer in the war.

It claims that since September 1st Russia has claimed "at least" 426 sq miles of territory. In the whole of 2023 the Institute estimates Russia only gained 149 sq miles.

War no longer a stalemate as Russia makes rapid advances, says ISW

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/11/25/donetsk-frontline-russia-ukraine-zelensky-putin-war-latest/

The vast bulk of advances are in Donestk which continues to undermine the wisdom of the Kursk operation which is diverting manpower and equipment.

Really? I gathered that Russia's involvement was purely to protect the regions of Ukraine with the most affinity to Russia, which it did by flattening its cities, looting whatever was still standing, raping its women and children and sending its men to their deaths as cannon fodder.

So less than Ukraine captured in August in Kursk

I went on google maps and measured the areas in oblasts Russia claims and not yet occupied

Zaporizhie Oblast 2288m^2 unoccupied

Donetsk Oblast 2280m^2

Kherson Oblast 2475m^2

Luhansk almost all gone

So 4.2 years at current rate for Russia to “win”, tho quite likely more as large chunks are on other side of Dnipro river and there’s some major cities there Russia has not shown its capable of taking

Triple that if they want Kharkiv too

since September 1st Russia has claimed "at least" 426 sq miles of territory. In the whole of 2023 the Institute estimates Russia only gained 149 sq miles.

So an area roughly the size of Dublin…… in just under 3 months…

in a country 9 times larger than Ireland

Forgive me for thinking the end isn't nigh for Ukraine just yet…

"Not sure about "negotiation" but Putin's terms for ending the war are the four oblasts (Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia) and Ukraine neutrality."

This is vatnik "golden logic" nobody else in civilized universe would be able to understand. Plyutkin wants 4 oblasts he has not invaded yet, and Ukraine's neutrality. Neutrality, let this word sink in your twisted mind. Hes demanding neutrality by removing neutrality? I mean….

As mentioned there was no coup in 2014.

In terms of East Ukraine, a majority did not want Kremlin control, they simply wanted some federal independence (and polls repeatedly showed this). There was no significant history of violence in the region at all.

Putin, using a handful of local pro-Russians, the FSB and large numbers of Russian soldiers started and maintained a proxy war in the region under the guise that it was some sort of "uprising" or "civil war".

Pretty astonishing to see this raw Russian propaganda resurface in 2024.

you nuts? Hes mama and papa will be cut in calmari rings if he post anything negative towards Vatland.

same same. just pre meds and no meds. 🙂🙂🙂

A decision which led to invasion:

-Thinking of joining a defensive alliance.

Finland stated there were going to join NATO, they then joined NATO, were they or are they inviting invasion? No.

Russia has moved troops away from the Finland border.

No one wants to invade nuclear armed Russia. We know this, they know this, every dog on the street knows this, so why is this game played whereby Putin's "security concerns" are used as a pretext to shift blame away for his decision to invade Ukraine?

That's because they aren't security concerns, they are propaganda designed to validate invasion and shift blame away from the invader.

It is called a poison pill.

Russia very deliberately did the same with tentative talks at Istanbul, including demands they knew Ukraine would not accept.

we make our own NATO with rum (two nuclear armed states) and without hookers (Orban etc)

Discussions on deploying Western troops and private defence contractors to Ukraine have resumed in Europe after Donald Trump's victory in the US elections. 

"Discussions are underway between the United Kingdom and France on defence cooperation, including the creation of a core group of European allies focused on Ukraine and broader European security," a British military source told Le Monde.

Just Google Romanian Elections now, and see what's happening, and how Putin operates.