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General Irish politics discussion thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭tarvis


    local knowledge says otherwise - neglect of our waterways has been a fact for years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,935 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    The contortions that some people go to blame the consequences of extreme weather events on anything other than climate change.

    These events are only going to increase in frequency and strength.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,504 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Its not a surprise really, they wiped their website clean of the anti-eu/pro-russia stuff in 2022 but they have always leaned this way



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,923 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Factually, dredging isn't a great method to prevent flooding, by leading with that you've shot further arguments.

    There are other better methods of flood prevention, but people tend to object to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Well yes it’s not new that SF have been anti-EU. It was the one good line I heard from MM in the debate when he was saying that SF were anti everything.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,308 ✭✭✭Good loser


    People in Ireland take so much for granted: good jobs and salaries, high social welfare payments, high corporate tax take, decent roads, welfare and energy bonuses (they're not PERMANENT!!) We are a glass half empty population big time.

    Last Wed I got my monthly prescription of 4 PENS filled by the chemist for €80; the same in the US would cost $1,275 each or $ 5000 odd for the month. The intravenous version of the drug coasts $ 7,000 a pop. My friend gets 2 pink tablets per day for his cancer free from the chemist; his daughter checked the US cost and it would come to $ 7000 per month.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    This is so true, but if the election goes the way I think, then everyone will learn their lesson in the next 12 months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    You are the one who thinks a 1 in 100 year event is going to happen more regularly yet don't believe in climate change being the cause. If that isn't idiotic, you have a strange threshold for idiocy.

    Maybe read some experts rather than relying on local "wisdom".

    https://www.ciwem.org/news/floods-and-dredging-reality



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    Why does Harris need to apologise? He was just engaging in debate with the lady and did not appear to say anything insulting or abusive in any way. He just seemed a bit cranky at the end of a long day. We're all human.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    He showed no empathy or understanding of the difficult lives that carers and the people they care for have. He just wanted to leave, immediately.

    If he wasn't the leader of the government who is responsible for the policies that directly affect carers and people with disabilities and if he wasn't looking for re-election - then fine. But he is.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,325 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    I would agree. The voters get complacent.

    This GE has a bit of a 2007 whiff about it.

    Remember Enda Kenny was supposed to walk it, but FF and Bertie came back right at the end to snatch it.

    It was the best thing ever to happen to Enda and FG, as the housing bubble blew up and FF, rightly, took the rap for it.

    The next 4-5 years is going to be quite unstable, with Trump honing his sights on Ireland's pharma industry, and with Putin next to unstoppable in the East.


    I look at the Greens for example, who have been punished for setting out their stall. My prediction is that they will make a roaring comeback next time out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,673 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    David McWilliams predicted in his IT column last week that government parties might do less well than had been predicted - he noted the global trend this year of incumbent governments performing quite poorly in elections.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,712 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    The person confronting him got very emotional and he found it difficult to deal with because nothing he could say would do anything to help. She was not open to empathy.

    He should have said he will come back to her 'tomorrow' and get someone to take her details. He did get back to her, but the media was already all over it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    The thing is (I say this as someone with a child with disabilities), just taking the time to listen would have said an awful lot. It tends to feel that you are shouting into the void when you give out about the current state of affairs for disability services, getting somebody to listen is so hard.

    If he had stayed put, listened to all of her issues and then say something like "I understand how hard that is. We have made some changes are X and hope to do Y. I'll get one of my colleagues to take your details" and then make his exit it would have been a good interaction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,673 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I felt he was quite brusque and dismissive with her - not a good look. Agreed that there was not a whole lot he could say when put on the spot like that, but he could have been more polite and engaging.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,547 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Mod: Below standard posts / Link dump posts deleted

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,712 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Of all politicians, he is very driven by the question of disability. It was the issue that directed him into politics.

    I think he ended up not being very savvy because microphones were being thrust up his nose, and that is hard to handle. He has tried to cover the mishap but not with much success.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    It's great that he's driven. It'd be better if he actually did something. Or acknowledged that they have failed this sector up to now.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,712 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    I do not know much about how disability is handled, but I believe there is an issue between section 38 and section 39, where both do the same job but section 39 are paid significantly less.

    That is a big issue and should be sorted, but issues like that are all over society. It is very hard to deal with because those issues are sometimes nuanced. For example, the same issue exists in child care vs teachers. I am sure there are plenty other, like, for example, soldiers pay vs Gardai, and I am sure there are plenty more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,088 ✭✭✭Caquas


    FG down to 19% in today's IT poll, FF 21%, SF 20%. Squeaky bum time for the last seat in most constituencies!

    Media commentators put the FG slump down to a campaign "littered with missteps" (Michael O'Leary on teachers, Simon "didn't sign the contract" for the Children's Hospital and he walked away from a disability worker). These useless commentators, who are consistently wrong about everything, never tire of saying that the major parties are "not listening to the people" but they refuse to take seriously the clearest result of their own poll - that the cost of living is the voters' main concern. 65% of voters gave costs as their main concern (cost of living plus cost of renting plus price of housing). And what about the 7% who said "the economy" was their main concern? They are not complaining about the lowest level of unemployment or the strongest growth rate in Europe. It's all those businesses driven to the wall by the increased costs of doing business. Added together - 72% of voters are mainly concerned about costs of living/renting/housing/business.

    But instead, the media think FG is in trouble because the Taoiseach didn't spend more time with a woman attacking the government with baseless claims about "doing nothing for disability". They also ignore another key poll finding - Simon's personal rating has fallen in line with FG so causality may run the other way - his popularity is down because voters are losing faith in FG.

    Could it be that the voters understand not only that all those promises will have to be paid for but - with a grasp of fiscal policy which surpasses almost all the media's favourite economists - voters also understand that the effect will be to push up the cost of everything? We all know FG attracts a superior sort of voter 😊 - the sort who don't like politicians buying votes.

    Morning Ireland grilled Micheal Martin this morning about what would happen if Trump collapses our economy. But the problem was not that FF was over-promising and writing a blank cheque for carers allowance (abolish the means test). No, all that spending is sacrosanct as "investment in public services". The solution RTE wants is - more taxes (and fees)!

    https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/22463933/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭shoegirl


    Similar - at height of tiger era in 2003, I think my take home pay was 1500 a month unless I did overtime. My medication at the time cost 84.50 a month and my rent was 600 a month - as I had some debt to pay off I lived on almost nothing.

    10 years later I moved into a far nicer apartment that only cost me 650 a month, and because the RPZ rules came in, by 2022 I was still only paying under 800 a month, but my take home pay had gone up by 2.5x & in a far better job thanks to in part, tax reliefs on education spend that enabled me to get a better qualification. Exactly the same medication now costs 41 a month thanks to years of bargaining down the cost. And while GP fees are up, insurers now offer far more everyday costs than they did in 2003. In addition, someone on the income I was on in 2003, would benefit from GP only card if not full medical card & pay a little less tax, possibly might qualify for HAP too.

    Don't things are quite as bleak as it seems. Having high levels of employment & thus forcing employers to be less discriminatory about taking on new staff is so important, especially for younger people looking for entry level work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭shoegirl


    Greens are being punished for prioritising Greenways over public transport investment, and getting up the backs of people who are car dependent but would have liked realistic options rather than endless tiny bike lanes that take years to build and assume that cyclists only every cycle in straight lines and don't turn off or enter from anywhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,286 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The Greens are not prioritising greenways over public transport investment, that's rubbish.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I agree with you about the Greens. The floods in Spain and last week in Ireland are only the start of it. We will see more and more climate impacts and the Greens will come back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭Notmything


    Its across the whole care sector, private providers cannot match the pay rates of government agencies or those the government funds. Hence there's a constant bleeding of experienced staff.

    In my case if I went to the HSE/Tusla I'd be doing a 39 hr week Vs my current 48 hrs but would still be coming out with more money in my pocket.

    Private companies are looking for extra funding to help keep staff as the staff turnover impacts the services and supports they can deliver.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,547 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Its across the whole care sector, private providers cannot match the pay rates of government agencies or those the government funds. Hence there's a constant bleeding of experienced staff.

    It's the opposite in terms of professionals required for housing e.g. planners - the local authorities were not able to compete on renumeration against private companies

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,325 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Despite the bad FG poll numbers, it appears for the FF and FG coalition, not much has changed.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,522 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Saw an interaction with a journalist/lecturer and the compiler of the above.

    What you are clinging to Mark is 'a bit of fun'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,325 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Clinging to?

    SF and its followers are terrified that SF will be made go into government with FF. That is the word on the street over the past 24 hours.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,522 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    'word on the street'???

    No back up, just what you think is a taunt, how utterly predictable.



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