Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

This one.

I was initialed by the Ukraine representative but they pulled out.

"We'll never know"

We do know. Zelensky openly offered to drop neutrality during Putin's early talks (widely suspected to be fake). Russia had no interest. Thus demonstrating that it was never a deal-breaker to them and they were going to invade regardless.

Which we all know.

Putin is forcing Ukrainian children to learn Russian, that has nothing to do with security concerns. He's stealing Ukrainian grain, that has nothing to do with security concerns.

The individuals who pretend that somehow peace was on the table as Putin was invading the country are as misguided as those individuals suggested the same when Hitler was invading Poland.

The fake talks were designed to project that somehow peace was on the table (it wasn't) and it was a mechanism so that Putin could accuse Ukraine or anything of "not wanting peace" if they pulled out of them.

How do people still swallow Russian propaganda and spew their nonsense after all this time?

it’s truly bizarre.

None peer reviewed. You are not a professor and claim to know better than the leading scholars in the world.

I've no idea why you refuse to acknowledge the likelihood of a coup. All the evidence points to a coup but you think a few opinion pieces proves otherwise.

I have published in academic journals. Have you? Perhaps you could present your body of work that proves you are a better school than John Mearsheimer whose work naming the coup has been recognized by jstor.

I think in years to come people will look back at forums like this in disbelief.

Your twitter source there is well known "vatnik" Katchanovski

https://vatniksoup.com/en/soups/196/

Chalyi is a former ambassador who believes "no treaties with Russia will end war"

Full interview here, not some carefully curated clip.

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/interview/truce-will-not-stop-war-with-russia-ukraine-1728543529.html

Your 2014 article isn't "peer reviewed". It's someone's opinion. It happens to be a very controversial opinion. You can read the opinions of many of his peers and you'll find many are critical of his.

Just because one seemingly smart person believes something doesn't mean it is true. I read a piece in a science journal by a group of scientists that 9/11 was an inside job.

This is why we look at the consensus of experts - not isolated experts who are known for their controversial or whacky views.

You're right , the recklessness of the Putin regime is astounding,

Invading a neighbouring state , f'ing up ,and threatening everyone who they think is hindering their war efforts - nuclear sabre rattling , changing their nuclear doctrine on the fly , even firing a medium range ,nuclear missile - without the multiple warheads at eastern Ukraine,

And the west is guilty of letting them -what would Reagan have done ? Or George bush senior , ?

The west has been recklessly ignoring the escalations , their silence and lack of action has allowed the escalation..

It seems you think Mearsheimer is wacky and jstor wacky because they don't align with your pro Ukraine worldview.

Here's the transcript of Nulands 2014 call which even the BBC reported.

You seem completely unwilling to discuss any of the nuance in Ukraine. In leaving certificate history, the causes for war are discussed. I expect this forum would present a version of world war one would be that the German side was evil and engaged in the war because they are evil.

I recommend picking up a history book.

Mod Edit: Warning issued for uncivil posting

There are rumours, only rumours now, so not posting the links to only have to delete them later, but they state that the storm shadow strike on that Putin complex with the North Koreans may have been far more damaging than is currently getting shared around.

Not to mention that while the Russians, while in the ascendancy and gaining grounds as suffering catastrophic losses in doing so. You'd have to wonder if ground gained today will be easily lost few months from now.

Russian economics is also looking fairly dicey at the moment

Very interesting, keep going..

(Just going to dust this off)

Earlier you posted a false claim about Istanbul that Ukraine would not lose territory.

That was utterly discredited with reference to multiple articles that clearly established your claim to be false - they hadnt even gotten to discussing territory . You provided exactly nothing to support that claim. Nor withdrawn the specific false claim.

Now when that Russian propaganda is challenged you deflect with:

"What that something was we don't know so it pointless to speculate what happened."

When you thought you could get away with posting fake Russian claims you were happy to make specific claims.

Demonstrably a deliberate attempt to deceive posters on this thread and spread pro Russian fake news to discredit Ukraine.

More classified info has been released regarding Putin's long list of assassinations and attempts, including the near fatal poisoning of former Ukrainian politician Yushchenko back in 2004, a reminder for how long this has been going on

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-11-22/putin-s-assassination-targets-revealed-in-declassified-memo