Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

And how do you know it is a one stage vehicle exactly ?

Mutually Assured Desruction, isn't what it used to be.🤨

It's not a "peer reviewed" article, it's not science. It's an opinion piece by a pro-Russian individual called Mearsheimer. He's on the Boards Russian bingo card.

Here are several articles/academic views on why he's wrong

https://www.newstatesman.com/ideas/2023/09/tragedy-john-mearsheimer

https://www.progressiveamericanpolitics.com/post/opinion-john-mearsheimer-is-wrong-about-ukraine_political-science

https://euideas.eui.eu/2022/07/11/john-mearsheimers-lecture-on-ukraine-why-he-is-wrong-and-what-are-the-consequences/

I've addressed this before. The uprising in 2014 wasn't a coup, no one was installed in power. After running on a pro-EU ticket, Yanukovych pulled a u-turn and sided with Russia, as a result people went into the streets. He used violence, which resulted in many more (100's of thousands) of people taking to the streets. He then had protesters murdered. He then fled (and was discovered to have been massively corrupt). The Ukrainian parliament legally removed him after the fact. They had full national elections afterwards.

No coup. If you are going to parrot a controversial figure like Mearsheimer at least have the basic objectivity to read from the sizeable mountain of literature criticising his opinions.

Maybe considering no Nato membership, basic human rights for ethnic Russians, loss of no territory, 100's of thousands more people still alive, security guarantees for both parties, millions of refugees spread far and wide and billions of dollars, Euro's and pounds in debt was worth discussing at least and not outright rejection.

Then you have Europe dependent on Trump for defense and energy now to boot. So possibly it was worth discussing at least.

I found this post from a Ukranian mapper based in Australia i think that summed up how he feels and sums things up quite well. He or she does a good job keeping people up to date from a neutral view, he get's a lot of stick because everything he reports on is bad news lately so gets called a Putin propagandist just for being realistic.

I want peace, real peace for Ukraine. What Russia was offering was not peace, it was a truce. Anybody who thinks otherwise was deluding themselves. Whatever Ukraine offered - Russia would have just made more demands that Ukraine would reject OR demands so outrageous Ukraine would have been a vassal state of Rusisa.
How many previous treaties and agreements does Russia need to break before you see that?
It was Russia who started the aggression, violating Budapest when Ukraine was considering an EU agreement.
The security guarantees of Budapest - of which Russia and China signed - didn't protect Ukraine. Never mind guaranteeing Ukraine's safety they actively violated it.
Russia have given zero reason for Ukraine to think they were acting in good faith.
Yet you never condemn Russia for this past abuse of diplomacy, which is the main reason why 'peace' today is not possible with Russia.
These are actions which encourage war not peace, by rewarding breaches of peace agreements.

You seem ok with Ukraine subject to occupation, subject to atrocities such as Bucha if they resist at all. Or did I miss your unreserved condemnations both of Russia's illegal war and war crimes and atrocities in its execution. In its absence, we can draw the reasonable conclusion that you are.
The people of Ukraine are not ok with that, if they want to fight on, I support them in that.

As for Europe, they were dependent on Russia for energy, something which Russia in bad faith attempted to leverage in this conflict. So your point is moot.

No Putin means No War, end of.

Placation of any kind is taken as submission by Putin.

I don't think Sinn Fein has properly explained their policy shifts on critical issues like EU Membership and their alliance with Russia.

I won't vote Sinn Fein but there are people born after they were PR for murder who might not know who they really are.

Read some Irish history and come back to us.

Zelensky agreed to neutrality just before the invasion but then Boris Johnson flew in and told them to be brave.

We will never know but the Minsk agreements never involved territory, draft treaty rejected by Nato and Istanbul also never. I would be quite certain they would take any of them now.

Remind us who broken Minsk agreements and started largest war in Europe since WW2

You have selective memory in your attempts to gaslight people

This nonsense again.

Did he really? Before the invasion? Do you have any sources for this claim?

Because it sounds an awful lot like a discredited piece of Russian propaganda.

Johnson didn’t directly sabotage a ceasefire deal in spring 2022; indeed, there was no deal ready to be signed between Russia and Ukraine. The two sides hadn’t agreed on territorial issues, or on levels of military armaments permitted after the war. Ukraine’s position during the negotiations necessitated security guarantees that western states were hesitant to provide. And there were domestic political questions inside Ukraine related to Russian demands about “denazification” to contend with.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/22/boris-johnson-ukraine-2022-peace-talks-russia

Britain’s prime minister hadn’t come to Kyiv to order a termination of the peace deal; this was advice at best, and as such, his scepticism about Russia’s trustworthiness wasn’t unique. There were strong concerns within Zelensky’s closest entourage that the Kremlin wouldn’t stick to an agreement for any longer than it suited its interests. The risks of signing the Istanbul agreement were high for Ukraine: key provisions, to do with the status of Donbas and Crimea, couldn’t be agreed until a later meeting between the presidents of the two states. Zelensky and his negotiators’ most important worry about the Istanbul agreement was, Romaniuk said, that “Ukrainian society might not accept such a deal”.

Then also the negotiations, revelations came out about Russian atrocities:

"The first thing was the revelation of the atrocities, rapes, murders, massacres, looting, indiscriminate bombings and hundreds and thousands of other war crimes committed by Russian troops in the temporarily occupied Ukrainian territories."

https://internationalviewpoint.org/spip.php?article7852

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