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Irish General Election - Friday, November 29th *Read OP for Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Voting for my local Independent TD.

    I think FF and FG are status-quo parties. I support much of the status-quo but I think Identity Politics is distracting the Department of Justice from fighting crime. The numbert of Gardai has dropped 4,000 under this government. I am all for equality, but felt the referendum was poorly worded and could have had unintended consequences in family law.

    I broadly support free speech, but don't consider calls for violence to be free speech. I think we need a debate on immigration in the Dail and possibly a referendum. FF's manifesto actually further expands the work permit system. This will lead to more demand for housing when we already are not building enough for those already here. Our planning system is too slow and in my opinion caters for vested interests.

    I don't really trust SF on Ukraine, and the recent manifesto call for an end to military aid confirms me in this. While Ireland doesnt sent military aid, nonetheless I would be concerned about what SF would do in EU votes related to Russia-Ukraine.

    I think SF's plan to limit the price of housing is risky. While house prices are too high, SF are not really tested on the economy and it would be a risk. We dont want to crash the housing market, like in 2008. In that situation the problem was too little intervention, but too much intervention could do it too.

    I like that my local TD, Verona Murphy, raised concerns about planning practices in Co.Wexford. I think reform of the planning laws can help limit address house prices in a sustainable way. I am concerned that since 2016, FF and FG have been sitting on the report into Donegal County Council where there have been alleged planning irregularities. I think after MICA, we especially need to see whats in that report. There is a danger we are unlearning the lessons of the Tribunals.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,211 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I notice you say "house prices". Are you expecting to buy a family home on a single income? It's not the 1970s any more. And having family homes occupied by single persons is not desirable anyway.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I completely disagree. If we go down the path of building a crazy number of homes to facilitate the insane numbers of Irish stuck with their parents and the insane numbers coming here both legally as economic migrants and legally/illegally as IPA's we're asking for 2008 2.0. And unlike the last time our starting point is over 200BN in death. You want us to end up half a trillion in debt? There might be no coming back this time.

    We need to keep houses built relatively steady but we also need to prioritise Irish people for these houses. It would take a government who care about us for that to happen and FFG/Greens is not that government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Emblematic


    Unfortunately you will never be able to build enough without curbs on immigration because at present lack of housing itself is what is limiting immigration. Policy must be balanced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,049 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Interesting observations, but voting for a local independent only doesnt really have an impact on the result of the GE.

    Even if they are elected, a lone independent has no influence, unless they are part of a broader alliance.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,049 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Which potential govt would build the perfect number of homes to house the irish only; without crashing the economy and raising the national debt, courtesy of not allowing migrant labour?

    if migrants working at Google and in our hospitals don't have a home, they aren't going to be working at Google or in our hospitals...nor will Google, Meta, Salesforce (take your pick) hang around in Ireland, if they cant hire skilled labour from europe and abroad.

    Which govt do you propose would be able to stop EU employment migration into ireland and how do you propose we would fill the labour gap?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,049 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Isnt the FG manifesto the one most likely to curb asylum immigration?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    The legal migrants contributing handsomely should definitely be looked after with rental properties but that's where it ends. Past that they should look to increase building to cater to the Irish and the economic migrants but surely you can see the danger in building a huge number of houses.

    One big global crash and we'll sink to the bottom of the sea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    What is it for "high " wages here , they are the ones being crucified...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    The Independents have had a lot of influence with certain governments, notably in 1997-2002, and in the FG-Ind confidence and supply agreement with FF. I remember the former Independent TD Mildred Fox reading out a list of promises she extracted from FF-PD in the 1997-2002 government. There are a few Left Independents though I think Murphy is more of a Centrist but one who asks the tough questions political parties don't always allow their TDs/Senators to talk about, which both of the topics I mentioned above are examples of.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Emblematic


    Is it your belief that their record in this regard has been good to date? And do you think they have been effective in curbing non-asylum immigration in the face of crisis-level housing shortage? Have they even been trying?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,223 ✭✭✭creedp


    Are all EU insured workers/pensioners living here automatically entitled to a medical card, irrespective of income?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    To be fair to Harris I don't think she was going to listen to a thing he said anyway. No point wasting time on people who don't want to listen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,378 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    The number of Gardai has not dropped by 4000, that's a lie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭Shelga


    His sneering arrogance is undeniable when he interacts with anyone who is not embedded in the FG bubble. The dismissive handshake before he turns his back on her, mid-sentence- he’s something else. If you don’t have the decency to even pretend to listen to voters voice extremely reasonable concerns, you have no business leading the country.

    I think Harris completely believes his own hype and I’d love to see FG take a nosedive next Friday. He’s a terrible politician and a coward. Takes no responsibility for any of the mess that has happened on his watch. I can’t respect that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭riddles


    nail on the head if the demand was reduced by emptying out the free loaders who have come here and not contributed anything - it would be better than simply building more houses to support more wasters - you can never fulfill that demand.

    We are going from 5-1 to 2-1 tax payer ratio in about 20 years. There’s no provision currently for public sector pensions or the OAP. That’s a gap of 60-100 bn. no mention of fixing this in election except M Martin did mention rainy day funds etc.

    Yet all we hear is we are awash with money and of course we should waste it. We also have a shifting recruitment model in tech where low cost locations are getting most new headcount - we’ll see that story unfold in the next 12-18 months.

    Anyway politics is short term and not capable of seeing beyond this week which is why we trundle along one step from chaos. Dysfunctional health care, nightmare traffic, appalling public transport and justice system that fails consistently………failure to support our elderly and most vulnerable with special needs. Poor quality of life here in general.

    This countries political system can be classified as the vested interest groups who look after their cronies via industrial immigration and NGO’s - well meaning independents who are largely ineffective then a complete hodge podge of loonies with policies to support the people who don’t need alarm clocks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,907 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    How many election posters are left standing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭CliffHangeroner


    Doesn't matter, optics as any politician will tell you is everything. The optics of this is absolutely terrible for Harris and it's happened a few times the last fortnight. It won't be enough to see FG have a Kamala Harris in the election though unfortunately as there are far to many people doing okay who just don't care about people like that carer or others like her.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭riddles


    Harris hasn’t mastered the art of feigning interest in people. He was better off going to schools and universities etc. His PR team which I guess don’t come cheap aren’t doing well in masking his many failings or maybe it’s a lost cause. He did delve into the Trump playbook with outright lies. But he doesn’t understand simple messaging or neither does his team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭Peter Flynt


    His job is TO LISTEN and not preach with "you're wrong".

    Harris is a nut job. Wired to the moon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Of course he believes his own hype. You have to remember/never forget that this is a man who has been wholly surrounded by the FG party apparatus since he dropped out of college and became Francis Fitzgerald's staffer (also why she was so influential in saving McEntee's job earlier in the year).

    He's never worked outside of the party, never had to live in that reality the woman was describing (or any others) so all he knows is politics and particularly FG's brand of politics.

    It's actually amazing to watch the slide in calibre of their leadership, which wasn't exactly stellar to begin with - Enda (man with 2 pints/where's Enda in a scandal) was bad enough but then Leo (I never met a press microphone I didn't like), and now Simon (Taoiseach by default) Harris, backed up with other quality like Helen (hurt feelz matter) McEntee!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    ah I dont know about that.. if the independent was from Kerry, he might get a new small hosital built there… What would that cost these days… one billion perhaps ;)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    The issue with Harris and that woman there is, she doesnt want to hear opinion and she isnt interested in his lies and excuses…

    Also defence spending and capability here, needs to be ramped up massively, from the near zero investment it currently gets! A country that is effectively totally defenceless, but which chooses to spend money like its going out of fashion, is laughable and simply a total leech on anyone that may defend us, like the UK. I believe the americans have already raised their anger at this issue…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭riddles


    hopefully the people of Wicklow and Meath reject Harris and McEntee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,806 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    His sneering arrogance is undeniable when he interacts with anyone who is not embedded in the FG bubble. 

    Well that's the thing with Simon

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Brilliant post! What I would LOVE to know is, how do they expect to fund this fantasy economics they accuse SF of? Maybe a more extreme version than now… in 2045, they entry point to the marginal tax rate will be E50,000 and the rate will be 80%… Man if the corporation tax dried up, LOL at the those weasels and what they would do! I mean in 2008, they just made the easy decision, to borrow tens of billions of euro…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,991 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Unfortunately it won't happen. McEntee will probably top the poll.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,783 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    I understand the pain in that carers voice so well. You give up your entire life to look after someone else and the needs of the one you care for always have to come before your own. Harris did what all the other departments that organise home helps and respite do too “We’ve got no home help, you’ll have to pick up that immobile 6ft man yourself. K, thanks, bye”

    I watched that interaction with Harris and it felt as uncaring as those department calls. Giving a couple of quid extra to a carer isn’t fixing anything.



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