Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

GAA Infastructure

18586889091

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    Despite what others have said you're right about the place being a bit of a kip.

    I can't imagine any rugby fan leaving MacHale Park being wildly impressed. Lets be honest rugby fans rightly expect a lot more in terms of stadium comfort and experience than what it, or indeed most GAA stadiums, offers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    If MacHale park is a kip then so are the majority of GAA, soccer and rugby pitches around the country.

    Rugby fans expect more comfort?...are you having a laugh. Maybe the Ballsbridge crowd. Most of the crowd at connacht games have been standing out in the rain for decades and the entire capacity in Galway can fit comfortably inside the stand in Castlebar as has already been mentioned.

    Again a reminder...connacht rugby are coming to the Mayo board not the other way around.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,565 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Yes most stadiums in Ireland are kips.

    Even good stadiums have people standing out in the rain. What they don't have is stupid concrete benches covering what should be terraces.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,717 ✭✭✭celt262


    Yeah benches that have restricted views because the slope on the seating area is too flat and a stand with big poles that people are expected to see through.

    It's a kip.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    Most GAA stadiums in the country are kips where the majority of supporters have to sit outside uncovered despite it being a considerably wet country.

    Yes, rugby fans do expect more not just the Ballsbridge crowd. Ravenhill and RDS are far better than all GAA stadiums with the exception of Croker for crowd comfort and facilities. Thomond Park is only beaten by Croke Park and PUC.

    While the Sportsgrounds may be small it at least has two covered stands at the moment. An alien concept in the GAA for most. Their plans for a new stadium are brilliant - small but with spectator comfort at the heart of them. The Mayo county board would have been far better off taking a similar approach when they redeveloped Castlebar when all they seemed to care about was having the biggest stand possible. If poles and blue seats enabled them to realise that ambition so be it.

    I'm saying all of this as someone who isn't a rugby supporter. I just think we're too quick to accept shite stadiums as GAA supporters.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    The usual toxic contributers on here having a moan and whinge. Half of my post was on the opportunity to raise revenue outside the GAA and reduce burden on clubs. This is a positive. The other half of the post linked to this was on the news that the Mayo board has been gifted a large land bank for a centre of excellence which again is positive news. But of course the glass half empty crowd don't want to talk about that.

    Connaught GAA are interested in using GAA facilities and that's a huge positive for fundraising.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Did you miss the bit where I explained in detail that MacHale Park has the 4th or 5th (depending on what criteria you're using) modern bucket seats in the country?

    Seems like you flew in with an angry misinformed post last night and are doubling down now.

    Also,have you ever been to the sport ground in Galway? I have 100s of time as I'm a big Connacht fan.It would compare in the bottom 10 -20% of county grounds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,351 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    A new stand is being built at the Sportsground so Connacht won't be using any GAA stadium again. This is a one-off, it's hardly worth mentioning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,565 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The article was about a TD saying he would like to see games there and you assumed everyone from outside Mayo would know what you were talking about. It gave no information about an actual potential match or contact between the organisations.

    Wow bucket seats. Ever heard of mutton dressed as lamb. The majority of the stadium is a dump and unless I missed them it has no spectator facilities.

    Never been to Ravenhill and only the RDS for concerts. I wouldn't have thought they are better than PUC. I can't see anything really that I would take marks off PUC for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview




  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,351 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    What toxic stuff? You can pretend that this is in some way significant but don't expect others to indulge in your fantasy too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭HBC08


    You're making a show of yourself.

    You were banging on about concrete benches in MacHale Park.When I explained to you (in detail and with facts) that it's amongst the top GAA stadiums in the country for modern seating capacity you come back with this?

    I think people would have more respect if you just said,oh right,I didn't know that I was wrong.

    Ps,you're a very angry man.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Anger issues there definitely. OTT reactions to reasonable posts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    With all due respects your definition of 'modern seating capacity' is a very low bar. The quantity of bucket seats would not fall into what most people would solely judge a stadium on.

    Modern high quality stadiums have bucket seats along with corporate boxes as well as plenty of food and drink options for spectators. They sure as hell wouldn't have poles blocking views or 3 sides of concrete seats open to the elements.

    I'm a Mayo man and in no world is MacHale Park a top stadium despite how many blue bucket seats it has.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭HBC08


    I don't necessarily disagree with you.

    The poster in question was moaning about concrete benches in MacHale Park.I simply pointed out it has more modern plastic bucket seating than any other ground in Connacht and most grounds countrywide.

    If you're using the term "modern high quality stadium" then no GAA ground except maybe Croker and possibly PUC fall into that category.

    If you want to have a moan about the colour of the seats in MacHale Park I'd suggest taking it to the Mayo forum.

    I don't know if you've been to the Sportsground in Galway....you said it has two fully covered stands at the moment.It doesn't,it had one covered terrace running 80% of the side line (the Clan) and one covered terrace opposite running 50% of the sideline.There is a small seated paddock called the Grant Thorton with a capacity of 200.

    It would compare to the like of westmeath or wicklow in terms of county grounds (except they have more seating)

    If you go to MacHale Park and the Sportsground regularly (like i do) you'd know which one you are guaranteed to get wet in.

    Having a Connacht game in MacHale Park is a win win for everybody involved.

    As many supporters can go as want to go.No problem with tickets or capacity

    Gets Connacht out of a bind as solves the problem of reduced capacity at one of the biggest games of the year.

    Huge novelty factor

    Spreads the rugby experience around the province.

    Revenue for Mayo GAA

    Revenue for Castlebar and surrounding towns.

    If you're trying to pull negatives out of that I can't help you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Doesn't matter how many positives are listed. Its pretty clear that the moaners here haven't been involved much in GAA clubs or county level fundraising. Collecting money, selling lotto tickets and membeship is a tough and thankless job and I've done my fair share over the years.

    When a gift horse in the form of a free land bank and an unexpected source of rental income presents itself genuine GAA people celebrate it for what it is. The positive response of mayo clubs to the rugby approach reflects this.

    But there are those in every parish that do nothing but bitch and moan and try and divert the conversation to some negative aspect while ignoring the greater positives. Thankfully the GAA is full of committed motivated people who ignore this utter BS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,565 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    "Doesn't matter how many positives are listed. Its pretty clear that the moaners here haven't been involved much in GAA clubs or county level fundraising. Collecting money, selling lotto tickets and membeship is a tough and thankless job and I've done my fair share over the years"

    Oh we're just not true Gaels like yourself. We didn't pull the rocks out of the field with our bare hands. Go away to fuk.

    People who actually push the GAA by not accepting rubbish are doing more than those pretending muck is gold. People like you would have blocked Croke Park because "ah Shure isn't it grand"

    You edited the post to include the CoE article afterwards which is why I missed it and didn't say anything nice about it.

    Of course I am happy Mayo got land for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    You are anything but happy about it and have had nothing good to say about it. Belatedly pretending you are now isn't going to fool anyone.

    If you look at the times on my post I edited and updated within one minute of first post. Of course you were already on your sniping response by that time.

    Telling me to 'go away to fuk' confirms my impression that you are a very unpleasant angry person.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭Rain from the West


    British government refusing to even commit to making a financial contribution to a new Casement Park it seems.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2024/1119/1481874-casement-park/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭crusd




  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭crusd


    It seems there are a few who have alerts set up for any mention of Mayo in anything other than a negative context and immediately swing into action



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,565 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    🤣

    Sorry I just assumed they were made back in the days of the cavemen



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭rjoe90


    It is clear to see who in this thread has never been involved in a GAA club in their life and thinks money for these stadiums grow on trees. McHale park is a perfectly adequate stadium and serves its purpose adequately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,717 ✭✭✭celt262


    No it's not clear to see.

    It's not a great stadium maybe it serves it purpose but a terrace or two would be alot better than concrete seats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    It needs improvements for sure but trashing fundraising attempts and calling it a kip is the language of those who do little or nothing positive for the GAA.

    I'm forever disappointed with the debt on the venue and Id prefer 2 smaller stands of similar size but it meets the needs of connacht rugby so that's all that matters in this instance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,565 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The debt is something that the GAA are going to have to get to grips with eventually.

    We currently have counties putting themselves in precarious situations to carry out essential construction. Others having to put it off which will end up with derelict stands like you see at some LOI grounds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    If it was all terrace and just the stand would that increase capcity or would the capcity still be the same due to the surrounding streets?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Good question. Probably the same as it held 34k previously for a connacht final but H&S exit issues led to enforced capacity reduction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭HBC08


    I imagine it would be the same,as mentioned it's overkill to do with how quickly it can be evacuated. It's the same criteria that saw capacities nearly halved on lots of county grounds about 10 years ago.

    Although less than 10 years ago there was 34k in MacHale Park for Mayo Galway and there was still room for more (2018)

    I took this pic on the day



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,565 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It is overkill and I think the GAA agreed too willingly.

    Removal of the benches might up capacity a bit but not a lot. Especially without an upgrade to the stairs up into the ends.

    It's the same in Thurles where all terrace access is from 1 tunnel or 1 very narrow stairs up the back. Compared to PuC or PnG the exits and more importantly (as far as I'm concerned) the lack of adequate toilets or the "crush" to get to them are woeful.



Advertisement