Ireland's Refugee Policy cont. Please read OP before posting

But there's no real parties pushing anything like the stuff we see on this thread.

Such as talking about plantations, or 'safe' countries, claiming all asylum seekers are 'bogus' etc. etc.

OK. And that proves……..what exactly?

By the million ?

Are people moving here by the million ? Bit of exaggeration there I think .

Even if we had 20k asylum seekers end of this year that number is 2% of what you are talking about .

Don't misunderstand or misconstrue what I am saying now . It IS too much at that I agree and we cannot accommodate half of those .

But just pointing out that exaggerating the issue and making wild claims is unhelpful .

For example also as regards Angola , here are recent facts and figures showing the opposite of your claim( a very quick Google )

In Angola at present .55793 Over 25k from DRC refugees and asylum seekers from other African states make up the rest

Total Population of Concern 55,793

Last updated 30 Sep 2024

Source - UNHCR, Government  https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://data.unhcr.org/en/country/ago&ved=2ahUKEwjik6np1-iJAxU4QkEAHT2-PI0QFnoECBsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3XsJqzyNnPJR1mA8wtj5Df

We’ll see what happens in the future. Ireland is behind other countries who have been doing this in bigger numbers. There is no reason to assume that things will be different over those countries. Our arrogance is thinking we can do better than other countries

But now with a major House emergency on our hands people want the natives to have even more superior rights then we already do

I don't understand this sentence?

International human rights, humanitarian laws are the laws of war.

We already limit the amount of refugees, we accept them through the IRPP. Asylum seekers are assessed on an individual basis.

Why a whole forum full of people who all agree need to continously argue this subject with two posters who are impervious to logical reasoning is the better question. The argument against mass immigration is so self evident that there's no point to discussing it. The crazy thing is the Government haven't copped on to this yet.

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Yes, all those lads from sub saharan Africa hanging around Borris O Kane are micro biologists and quantam engineers just waiting to be scooped up by Google and Phizer. In a controlled system the companies inform the government of what skills and professions they are having trouble hiring and the government issues visas accordingly. If for some reason we find we're short of "Turkish" barbers or phone repair shops we can also issue visas.

No.

(1) Irish returning home = we need more of this immigration

(2) EU migrants = welcome, as long as they work. Therefore, EU migrants removed after 3-6 months if they can't support themselves

(3) Non-EU migrants: I suggest severe restrictions here, until rents and house prices stabilise

(exception = non-EU builders, they are welcome to help build houses, other skills shortages)

(4) Temporary refugees from UKR: we have been too generous, reduce number from 105k to 50k

(5) AS looking for Intl Protection: process claims within a week in large scale detention centres at ports of entry, then remove. All AS from safe countries removed within a week, aircraft doing daily flights to Albania, Georgia, etc.

Their is no arrogance at all with the people pushing it.

They know the results, they can see what happens everywhere else.

They just know that it's not going to affect them personally.

They are not in areas where services are overstretched and busloads of men will be sneaked into old abandoned buildings while locals are sleeping.

They will handpick a few families to put into their areas and say they are doing their part.

Remember the asylum seekers who camped in Kitty Holland and Hazel Chuis neighborhoods a few months ago.

They were moved along before the kids got home from school to see what the peasants see.

Kitty talked about how the area didn't have the services for these poor people, but your a far right racist if you protest to having them in your neighborhood with worse services.

They won't be turning up to many doors doing canvassing because they are not stupid and know the anger.

I got a leaflet in the door from the local ff rep last week.

In fairness to the Sinn Fein rep he was going door to door yesterday, as much as I dislike them.

You left out IPA's. We don't limit those crossing the border in the north or those arriving in the airport / sea ports. A pathetically low amount ultimately get deported.

Still dodging the question. I'm just going to assume you think we're obliged to accommodate any amount of "legitimate" arrivals.

I can tell you what I think is acceptable going forward. A zero refugee policy for a few decades. Zero IPA's, asylum seekers or refugees.

I neither left out IPAs or dodged any question.

Read the post again

They are under Temporary Protection, was due to finish on March 2025, now extended to March 2026.

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2024/06/25/ukrainian-refugees-council-extends-temporary-protection-until-march-2026/#:~:text=2024%2010%3A30-,Ukrainian%20refugees%3A%20Council%20extends%20temporary%20protection%20until%20March%202026,from%20Russia's%20war%20of%20aggression.

I think taking 1% of our population is plenty.

1% is approx 50k.