Ireland's Refugee Policy cont. Please read OP before posting

That's what immigration laws are for.

What About the Palestinians?

What's all the fuss about settlements, and evictions by Israelis, shur societies change,

You could be surprised with some posters response to the Palestinians plight. Despite being advocates for us opening our borders to all and sundry they were very pro Israel's right to defend their (illegal) borders and supported their attack on Gaza. They've gone a little quiet on this and don't like to be reminded of it now that Israel has gone all genocidal and stuff.

Except that we gain when US citizens become Irish citizens and we lose when illegal immigrants become legal immigrants. We then lose more if these legal immigrants become Irish citizens so really they are not the same thing at all. In one we gain and in the other case we pay eye watering sums to house and feed and our reward is huge ongoing payments and a decrease in social cohesion.

What about them exactly? They are entitled to claim asylum, same as everyone else. If you wish to discuss the ongoing conflict, I suggest it's probably off topic here, not sure it would be allowed.

Nations get stronger and nations get weaker. Progress is not linear and success has to be earned and defended. What has made Ireland and Europe great in in the past is at risk now. If we dilute our national characteristics and import millions of 3rd world immigrants with little Education and radically different cultures, we will have a poorer and more divided country within a generation. Many parts of the UK and France have begun to look like Pakistan and Algeria after only two generations of immigration.

Nobody should want Dublin to look like Tower Hamlets and it shouldn't be taboo to say it.

I'd think both suggestions equally belong in the conspiracy forums.

I'd say myself the reason there has been so much migration in Europe over recent decades comes down to two important, and I'd say quite obvious, factors.

1. The prevailing economic and political wisdom has been to reduce regulation and interference on business. Business is largely free to up and move wherever it likes, and hire from wherever it likes.
2. Migration has become much easier. Flights are far cheaper, not just for an initial move but also to return home and keep in touch with family and friends. Technology also allows people to keep in touch with family and friends at home and to make connections in new countries. People can also gain information about jobs and moving to other counties far easier, as well as keeping an eye on opportunities at home so that they might return at some point.

Personally I'm not a fan of the amount of migration in the world today but if the alternative is what the far-right/anti-immigration movements are peddling, it's still a no-brainer as far as I'm concerned.

It is just a bit bizarre to me to be honest really.

Is Ireland going to be better off if we replace Irish men with men with backwards views towards women.

Is Ireland going to be better off if we replace highly educated workers and replace them with workers of a lower standard, the NGOS won't be long leaving.

Are all these new Muslims going to come in and adapt to western cultures and we all sign kumbaya my Lord around cities and towns.

Or are we likely to violence over religion like we seen in the past.

Sure this would all be great until it runs into cold hard reality.

We're not far off being able to adopt drones for food delivery.

We're also not far off getting driverless vehicles as far as transportation industry is concerned.

We do not need more people

There are some people on here who really dislike Irish people. They like Ireland well enough but seem to have lots of issues with Irish people. I wonder that they stay here when they most definitely do not like the people.

I don't know ,maybe you should ask" them "whoever they are .

This thread exhibits a feature I've noticed on every immigration/refugee/asylum seeker thread on every Irish forum I've ever been on for the past 10 years or so.

A large majority of posters who are not in favour of mass immigration, and who question it, and raise points against it.

And a small number (2 or 3) posters who post at a remarkable rate (usually thousands of posts) who are unconditionally and unequivocally in favour of it. The 2 or 3 in favour never waver, never take a break, and never answer a straight question.

It is a curious phenomenon that holds true for every single forum I'm aware of, and has over the 10 years or so that I've been reading forums. It only appears to be a feature of immigration threads, and only seems to relate to Ireland. I don't know what it means, but it is certainly interesting.

You know there's plenty of countries in the world even western where if me or you enter we won't be on equal footing to the natives. Even in Ireland in. Certain regards. But now with a major House emergency on our hands people want the natives to have even more superior rights then we already do.

So one last time? You're unable to suggest what number of refugees would be too much? You can't answer because unless you say unlimited you're going against those international humanitarian laws you love so much.

This is literally where most Irish sceptics are coming from. The case studies have been done. We know what lies down the road and we don't want to end up there. It's heartbreaking seeing the Danish government take real preventative measures but our government stick their head in the sand.

Makes me think when this thread will end.

It looks to be a non-issue election wise, at least in relation to the stuff that typically gets posted here.

And it's just the same stuff over and over really isn't it?