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Israel are going to start WWIII

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Given Judaism isn't an expansionist religion looking to aggressively spread and convert like Christianity and Islam does where do you think those Jews originated from. DNA tests suggest the middle east.

    Now what happened, happened. You can't blame Palestinians for Arab conquests in the past which created the conflicts between Jews and Muslims. Obviously a two state solution is the key. A reasonable peaceful coexistence like in the north. We couldn't be further from that situation however.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    So creating a Jewish state justifies the ethic cleansing of Jews in other countries? Many wouldn't have decided to leave their home countries for Israel if they weren't effectively second class citizens to the Muslim majority.

    A quick Google search.

    "Traditionally, Jews in the Muslim world were considered to be People of the Book and were subjected to dhimmi status. They were afforded relative security against persecution, provided they did not contest the varying inferior social and legal status imposed on them under Islamic rule."

    Imagine getting "relative" security as long as you stay in your box. Basically apartheid situation, a similar situation to what Jews now impose on Palestinians. (The irony).

    "Immediately before and after the Arab world sought to destroy the newly created State of Israel between 1948-49, the rights and security of Jews resident in Arab countries came under legal and physical assault by their own governments and the general populations.".

    Let's not kid ourselves into thinking Jews and Muslims lived in harmony. They'd have more respect for them then if they were atheists but ultimately Islam looks to convert and dominate. It's in its very nature.

    There is a concept in Sharia Law called Dhimmi which effectively makes non Muslims including Jews living in a Sharia law nation second class citizens. A type of apartheid effectively.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭felonious_Gru


    Notice how we in Ireland have recently come under a fairly intensive narrative assault, we were so poor for so long that international finance ignored us and so the narrative infrastructure like exists in most Western countries ( not including American as Israel is a cult mindset there ) was never put down.

    The reason Israel and Zionists particularly hate Ireland is we see things as they really are, a state built on lies and which has lies at the core of everything it does cannot have a leak , Ireland has an outsized soft power, if Belgium or New Zealand took the same view as us , Israel wouldn't care less, our relationship with America and ability to influence makes us a threat



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭felonious_Gru


    Germany is it's own thing on this, there entire middle East policy is an exercise in atonement for it's own past sins and nothing more, nothing after 1945 plays any role in Germanys position towards the mid East situation and so nothing Germany says is anything but meaningless



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,015 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Not at all, was just surprised one can milk it for so long. Not providing much of evidence, well nothing at all to say, to back up your paperdome bs.

    The nerve touching is Thoughts and prayers, means nothing and well overused in Ireland. God bless you is at the same level..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    The lashing out at Ireland by Zionist Twitter has been incredible. The most vile and racist comments about Irish people just because of opposition to a regime killing 50 children a day for over a year.

    The reason they single out Ireland is because Irish Twitter is in English and their American Zionist allies can read it. If they could understand Spanish Twitter or Italian Twitter or Norwegian Twitter they would be losing their sh*t with them too.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,015 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    The reason Israel and Zionists particularly hate Ireland is we see things as they really are, a state built on lies and which has lies at the core of everything it does cannot have a leak , Ireland has an outsized soft power, if Belgium or New Zealand took the same view as us , Israel wouldn't care less, our relationship with America and ability to influence makes us a threat

    Wtf, I think you, and others, are desperately looking for something that doesn't exist. Maybe Zionists hate Ireland for it's inability to work out public transport, or healthcare, who knows...

    Ability to influence... 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,015 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Can't be serious.. The definition of singling out Ireland. Cuz it's in English.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,696 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    No I think it’s disappointment and a feeling of betrayal by Ireland. There’s a forest in Israel named for Eamonn DeValera, which says something of how Ireland used to be seen there. (DeValera visited Israel in the 1959s).

    Nothing similar, AFAIAA, for significant Belgian or NZ figures.

    As for Ireland’s fond belief in its outsized influence, well. First, it’s odd how this is so often presented as a positive by the very people who complain that Jews also have an outsize influence but that in their case it’s malign.

    Second: it’s becoming like the British belief in the special relationship: far more one-sided than the smaller party likes to imagine. And the current carry-on of many in Ireland are damaging whatever is left of that influence.

    ”I enjoy cigars, whisky and facing down totalitarians, so am I really Winston Churchill?” (JK Rowling)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Do you think American Zionists are reading Norwegian Twitter?

    No.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭felonious_Gru


    Jews aren't victims, they are just about last in the queue of global marginalized groups, immensely powerful in terms of influence with the right people

    Ireland owes Israel nothing whatsoever



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,015 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    That's just telling me, you can't be serious.

    Hate repeating myself, but it seems to be trendy here, so I might join..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,015 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Do you mind if I'll use some art to comment. I know I'm interrupting and apologies for that.

    Now the art

    🤣

    That's some ignorant post of yours! I'm becoming to think that some Irish peeps are thinking Ireland is the best and whatever, but reality is somewhere in the middle, isn't it. Endless child, women abuse, church problem.. doesn't look like all the graveyards were discovered yet, all that was happening under the great democratic government of Ireland. Kids still praying at schools? And you guys are pulling your shirts off, because of Palestinians?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    I’m sorry but I’m not sure exactly what it is you are finding difficult to understand?

    What is the sentiment being expressed on Finnish Twitter concerning the Israeli/Palestine conflict? I don’t know because I don’t understand Finnish therefore don’t engage with Finnish Twitter.
    Do you?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Oh yes, in Ireland we have Theocratic parties making up almost half the government coalition. Religious parties actively seeking to bring about an apocalypse which will see the coming of the Messiah.
    Oh wait that’s not Ireland, that’s Israel in 2024.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭felonious_Gru




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,015 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    I'm sorry too, but I was responding to your American Zionist whatever twitter bla bla english and now we are on Finnish twitter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    When you have a point to articulate I’d be happy to help.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,696 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    So it’s a good thing when Ireland has oversized influence, but somehow a bad thing when Israel does?

    Like I said.

    Ok got that.

    But Ireland isn’t fighting Israel. So compare Israel’s democracy, with 20% (and growing) of the population who are Arabs as well as various minorities, to the situation of non Muslim minorities in any of the other 98% of the former Ottoman Empire that has given rise to massive population movements. Not just Palestinians. Though to read Irish media that’s what you’d think.

    Should all the other minorities go round murdering people to get their state? The Yazidis never blew any planes up - maybe that was their mistake? Nor the Gilakis or the Turkmens. Or maybe their problem is they’re being oppressed by non-Jews so nobody cares? Where’s the Kurdish state?

    ”I enjoy cigars, whisky and facing down totalitarians, so am I really Winston Churchill?” (JK Rowling)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭drury..


    Why do you believe that as trump has declared he will stop wars and made the point there was no wars during his previous term



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭felonious_Gru


    He is referring to conflicts outside of Israel or where Israel is involved, Americans don't like funding Ukraine but Americans will write any sized cheque where Israel are involved , that includes Iran



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Well murdering people to get their state worked for Israel.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭Fuascailteoir


    Israel had a right to defend itself by raping doctors to death while being illegally detained. The EU is morally bankrupt for giving cover to these lunatics



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    No statement from Ursula or Joe Biden on this but Israeli hooligans lose a fight they started in Amsterdam and it’s the worst thing since the holocaust.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,980 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    20 years ago I was stating Israel is a terrorist state and they still are today



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Agreed. Until they've conquered Israel they'll not stop. They've basically created a system in Ukraine which is roles reversed what happened to Jews in predominantly Muslim countries in the Arab world. There won't be peace in our lifetime that's for sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭felonious_Gru


    Israel should be allowed kill whoever, wherever and in whatever number, until they deem a security threat to be eliminated, they also must be allowed define what is a security threat

    Anyone who has any problem with this doctrine is an antisemite



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    IS consider Hamas and Palestinians in general apostate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,366 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Double post



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭freebritney


    Interesting times ahead in Israel, the Ultra Othordox are being conscripted for the first time. The crowd who did everything to start the war and keep it going are now going to have to fight for the land they want to steal.



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