Ireland's Refugee Policy cont. Please read OP before posting

I hope Patrice gets the help she needs 👨‍🔬

How can illegal immigrants impact social welfare when they cannot access it?

No Longer illegal immigrants, that was the point of the scheme. Illegal immigrants cannot access social welfare

Nope. Because illegal immigrants do not get access to social welfare. Those that enter the scheme are no longer illegal immigrants.

There's Absolutely nothing they could ever say that would induce me to vote for them. Ever.

This is a thread on immigration policy.

What aspects of SF policy on immigration do you fundamentally disagree with?

Wouldn't it be such a pity if they were placed in the same streets as judges etc? I think things might begin to change drastically once that started happening!

The lies in the last few days appear to focus around 'welfare dependency' and 'benefit tourism' so I think it's worth posting this again…

I've added a new point too, I'd asked here several times about the laws on arriving without documents but couldn't get an answer so I did a bit of digging. I've marked that one down as disinformation as in fairness it does seem to be a common misunderstanding.

Lie: Asylum seekers don't work and become welfare dependent.

Fact: The ESRI reports strong employment uptake by people from the IPA community.

https://www.esri.ie/system/files/publications/RS160.pdf

Lie: People coming through 'safe' countries are 'bogus' asylum seekers.

Fact: IPA's do not have to stay in the first 'safe' country they reach. While many do, it's of course reasonable and legal to travel further, whether for family reasons, job opportunities or long term stability.

https://fullfact.org/immigration/refugees-first-safe-country/

Lie: 'Bogus' asylum seekers arrive from 'safe' countries.

Fact: Countries which are designated safe by the Department of Integration are deemed to be so for the majority of people. People can still seek asylum from these country where individuals or smaller minority groups might still be persecuted.

https://www.thejournal.ie/what-are-designated-safe-countries-of-origin-in-ireland-what-countries-how-does-it-work-how-many-applicants-6285239-Jan2024/

Disinformation: Illegal migrants enter the country without documents.

Fact: It is illegal to entry the country without documents only if the person cannot provide reasonable justification for not having same. Also, those applying for international protection still have a legal right to remain in the state.

https://www.ihrec.ie/ihrc-welcomes-high-court-judgment-striking-down-provision-of-immigration-legislation/

https://emn.ie/legislation/civil-law-miscellaneous-provisions-act-2011/

Fact: We have no room nor money for endless stream of undocumented immigrants \ asylum seekers \ scammers \ whatever.

The only hotel in town here is now on the ipa gravy train/people trafficking business call it what you will, after hosting Ukrainians for a year or so... Anyways the blinds are drawn 24 hrs a day since the ipas moved in,what are they afraid of if what they are doing is so noble and altruistic, let the light in.… everytime I drive past I'm reminded of how the French cover their heads with a napkin or cloth while they eat the little Ortolan such is their shame for indulging in this delicacy…then again the foreign consortium who bought the hotel 3 years or so ago I doubt have any shame, it's all about the 💶💶💶💶's, headcounts so much per unit, may as well be livestock

Just because you call them illegal immigrants, doesn't make them so. Just makes you wrong.

I don't believe anyone has ever claimed that there isn't people trying to game the system, have they?

Hilarious... Derek Blight has to pay a donation to a refugee charity.

I guess he'll be officially part of the 'refugee industry' now. Fair play judge.

https://www.thejournal.ie/derek-blighe-fermoy-district-court-6543175-Nov2024/

So a wee timeline on the situation

Feb 2021 - the much loved and much respected TD, Roderic O'Gorman, hits the send button on his beautifully hand crafted tweet inviting the 3rd world to Ireland - A tweet that was agreed on by everyone at the cabinet table inc FFG

Dec 2021 - Then one of the best and most intelligent TD's the country has ever known, Ms McEntee, sends another message to the less fortunate people of the world (just to confirm that Ireland is indeed the place to be) showing them that if they get here and stick it out for a while, there's a good chance they'll be given citizenship of Ireland and by extension, the EU and the UK due to the CTA - Ahh, the UK - the second Mecca

Early 2022 - Covid restrictions ease and the 3rd world take us up on our very generous invite and thinly veiled 'Psst, you'll get to stay anyway' message c/o FG

1st Govt response: Oops

2nd Govt response: Let's give Ukrainian refugees the highest payment of any country and accept UA refugees from all other countries as they realise that we pay the most, even though there's no obligation for us to do so

2021 to present date - Billions of taxpayers Euros paid out per year to fund this. Many, many multi-millionaires made in Ireland and across the world off the back of this racket

Nov 2024 - FG FF GP: 'Will you give us your number one vote?'

Edit: Nobody here gives a F about Derek Blighe Boo, so that wasn't quite the hit you might think

You deprived the poor cat of it's soft bed?