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2024 Irish Gigs (Confirmed & Rumoured Events)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,052 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    in fairness both shows were probably budgeted in the 5000 ish range as interpol did trinity not too long ago and kasabian/the streets was probably expected to do the same.
    I think MCD are the worst for repeating big acts here in a very short time frame.
    The business model of live nation is all about revenue growth and as they own all aspects of live event environment from ticketmaster, promoter and venue they are not as concerned about an individual loss on the promotion aspect of a show whilst taking in ticketmaster fees and bar revenue. It probably washes out for them on the long run.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭Wrongway1985


    Acts that have little presence/emerging are suffering more.

    People discover something may be asking to play Ireland only to also find they did but to a handful a few months back so shouldn't be surprised if an swift return is unlikely.

    Livenation aren't about music or doing favours they'll take advantage of prices for Olivia Rodrigo for instance but it could mean a bum less on a seat at another show even though they're likely the ones promoting it at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 Rebelinho


    Sweet, got one there for more or less face value. Thank you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,950 ✭✭✭Mollyb60


    Was gonna ask you what Mandela is like now after the rebuild. I haven't been at a gig there since the refurb but old Mandela was great.

    I'm in the Limelight tonight for a Man Utd podcast (against my will) but it's also a great venue. I've been really pleasantly surprised by the Belfast Telegraph building for gigs recently. Solid sound, good views and plenty of space at sold out gigs. It's an excellent venue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭tommythecat


    Interpol were never gonna fill a venue like that. Again it's the problem of not having a mid sized venue 2-5k. I know others here say it would not be successful but that was two gigs that would have been better in a venue like that. With all these 20th and 30th anniversary album tours these bands attract a larger audience than a regular gig. And there are a lot of them coming up in the next five to ten years- 1995-2005

    Get building I say!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,052 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    the 3 arena is a modular set up venue and can work for 5000-14,000 and sure Kasabian is an arena production as that’s the type of venues it’s playing in the uk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 897 ✭✭✭jams100


    It looks like we have reached saturation point? We'll see now with Robbie Williams and Rodrigo Gabrielle, will they both be instant sell outs and at what prices are people willing to stump up.

    Also, Kasabian being on a Monday was clearly a massive factor here, had it of being a Friday or Saturday they easily would've shifted another few thousand tickets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,052 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    being a Friday wouldn’t have helped them that much. Both them and the streets have played ireland multiple times in the last year between EP and Olympia shows. Only so much demand exists to see them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,076 ✭✭✭JimBurnley


    Exactly why I didn't go. I like Kasabian but only saw them last year in Olympia. So much choice of gigs no need to attend a repeat show, especially in the Point which ain't the best in Dublin getting back from



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭tommythecat


    It might be modular but its still a massive space that feels massive despite the changes made to make it "smaller". It didn't feel great for Interpol the other night. I still say a mid sized venue is justified and would be a better experience for both punter and band.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,052 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    if it was a worthwhile endeavour it would of been built, honestly there isn’t need for such a space 100-200 nights a year to make it viable. There isn’t that many acts in that zone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    100%, I'd have went myself if on Fri or Sat night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭tommythecat


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭tommythecat


    Just because something is worthwhile it doesn't mean it will happen. For many different reasons.

    If you look at a venue like the roundhouse in London which is around 3.5k for a standing gig. It seems to be doing well and putting on similar gigs to vicar street etc but bands can sell some more tickets and not have to do two nights in the one city. They might be giants and Amyl and the sniffers both sold out their shows in Dublin and could have shifted another 500-1000 perhaps.

    I know it's not a completely equal comparison with the population sizes etc but 1600 odd for our biggest "smallest" venue is not big enough

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭Homesick Alien


    Was at Interpol and it was as expected. Lots of areas curtained off but where I was standing it felt full and it was a good crowd. Last time I saw them it was at the Olympia, can't remember if they played one night or two but even if it was two nights they would've had double that crowd on Sunday night. Maybe if the promoters had plumped for a big name support they could've shifted a few more tickets but they still wouldn't have sold it out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭Homesick Alien


    Does anyone have the stage times for Nick Cave tonight? Heard he's going on early but can't find confirmation of that anywhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Ricosruffneck




  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 16,419 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    Yea agree they would have gotten more of a crowd if it was a weekend but not a sell out. First time seeing them without Tom and they're still a class live act, felt more of a party atmosphere which is was great along with brilliant production. I'd say 5-6k max at the gig, missed most of the streets, only got in during cry your eyes. The bar issue on the right handside of the stage was ridiculously slow, it's probably down to lack of staff and training etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,052 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    national stadium is 2000. The Olympia this year was devoted primarily to comedy and theatre as they simply couldn’t book acts that could fill the room as is. I think people overestimate how many acts could do 2000-3500 here. Multi nights work out well for bands some times as rest from travelling and easier for fans to catch one night



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭Landers11


    Having it on a Monday was the problem for me. Would have went if it was a weekend



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Mucker46


    Really good crowd no chatting very little up and down to the bar and we'll up for it. Really enjoyed it



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Fits in with the long-running debate for a 4k/5k sized venue in Dublin. Ideal for Kasabian and Interpol this week, Khruangbin in two weeks. What's the point of a half or third-full arena when the same act can create a great atmosphere at a more suitable location? And how many acts are not playing here because they're too big for the Olympia but can't sell out an arena?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,052 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    khruangbin have sold well over 6000/7000 tickets. A 4000/5000 venue would have been no use to them.

    There is no probably less than a dozen acts that skipped ireland in last year or two because they are too big for Olympia/vicar/stadium and not big enough for 3 arena. Between the summer outdoor shows and festivals nearly all of those types of acts are caught



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Kasabian, Interpol, Kneecap, IDLES & Khruangbin this month alone could do a 5k venue. Possibly Nas doing Illmatic and undoubtedly some others. Better suited to Lankum than smaller or larger venues. And any act that can sell out Trinity or Iveagh can do it. Suede, Libertines, Manics, New Order, etc are better suited to that size, can do an extra night if the demand is there.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    In terms of bands not playing we're clearly talking about non-Summer shows. Why aren't the Manics playing on their album tour next year (proviso-that may change, and a shorter greatest hits set alongside Suede in the Summer ain't relevant)?

    You're vague about the Khruangbin number so it's guesswork. 8k capacity for this and tickets available in every sector including standing so my turn at guesswork - close to 5k sold. Better in a 5k venue.

    Interpol - better in a 5k venue.

    Kasabian - better in a 5k venue.

    IDLES - I love the Olympia but they'd rather do one show than three. Thus better in a 5k venue.

    Kneecap - as above. They could probably do two nights in this venue but possibly not yet enough too sell out the 3Arena.

    Christy Moore/Damien Dempsey - they've an Xmas tradition at Vicar St but they could also do it as could Villagers, etc, etc.

    Numerous acts. And forget the requirement for 200 gigs a year there. There's much else that could be programmed including comedy, theatre, etc. I'm surprised that there's any debate about this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,745 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Is Harry Crossbie not planning a 2,000 venue besides Vicar Street? Would wonder about that as doesn't increase capacity of the new venue massively compared to Vicar Street. I think with the summer gigs there could be a demand for a 5-10k venue but guess 3Arena fills the gap whole none exists. Not that I think it will ever be built anytime soon if at all but interesting that Live Nation thinks there would be a demand for a 6k venue in Cork.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭crl84


    Yes, right beside the existing one and keeping both. Seems like a missed opportunity to create a 3.5k venue that could be smartly partitioned when need arises. Presume they don't want to have to close the existing venue while the 2k is being built,or can't for financing reasons....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭colmufc


    Damm right, even if you did look at having to fill it 200 nights a year you could stick disney on ice and all those shows in there, citywest used to host them at 2k a show, pantos and awards shows could easily use a venue like that with room to square off the space if not using the full 5k.

    I'd love to know when I see idles next week I won't be stuck under the ceiling for the circle and 3 shows sold out at 1,240 capacity would be perfect in a 5k venue.

    The issue is where to build it, honestly I'm 2 hours away from dublin so it's a pain pretty much wherever it's put but if there was scope to put it near the 3arena it would be perfect, out onto the m50 and down the m7 after the show



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    We've discussed this recently, but for IDLES I'd recommend going in at 7.15/7.30 and getting a wristband for the pit. Problem solved re any ceiling. Enjoy it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,052 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    all those bands made money and played in venues that suited there touring set up.
    If there was a 3000 - 5000 then olympia, vicar/3 arena would have even more gaps in their schedules and be empty.
    New order did 3 arena and got good crowd. So inbetween venue when they were touring arena production is of no value.



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