Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

Give you refuse to even engage in the possabilty that you are wrong, here are some content to read which details exactly what I am alluding to.

It is a fact that the GOP under Trump is the working class party. You may have the opinion that he doesnt do all that much for them, but at the end of the day, you cannot dispute the raw numbers, of non college educated people who voted for Trump.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/11/04/new-republican-party-working-class-coalition-00122822

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/11/06/trump-coalition-republicans-realignment/

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/gop-cements-gains-as-the-working-class-party-across-racial-lines-cd7e3ba5

VP in a successful administration

Then why did she lose badly?

It's nonsense to suggest there was no evidence that Harris may win. 

There was, but you didn't want to see it not contemplate it.

There was and still is a complete denial of reality but some still, even days after the election result should have sunk in a bit.

We are talking about the election, and its result, not the next Donald Trump presidency, which will have its own dedicated thread I imagine.

By all means create one.

Very much your opinion.

Ok I've calmed down, sorry mods, and accepted the fact that Trump is now president in waiting, might as well just get over it and enjoy it for the entertainment factor. But the Dems really only have themselves to blame, much like the MSM and political parties here they have pushed a progressive agenda too far while seemingly treating the plebs with disdain.

You just proved it in graph form.

😂

PA, WI and MI were NEVER swing states until Trump came along. That is the point.

Biden won those states very narrowly. Remember 'Sranton Joe'?

I see someone has learned how to embed Simpson meme images. A new world has opened up.

I'm not saying she was successful. I'm saying she was a very viable candidate.

And Harris will forever be known as the person who lost to Trump in this election, that is a fact, but as I've already said, people voted for Trump knowing who and what he is and that is on them, not on Harris.

Trump didn't run an impressive campaign by an sstretch of the imagination and his negative record speaks for itself and yet more people want him than a mixed race woman.

In 2016, I didn't blame a wide spread culture of ingrained racism or mysogny or ignorance for Hillarys defeat, this time, I feel it has to be part of the conversation because of Trumps negatives, his lack of positives, and what Harris had in the same respects.

You take the names and the genders out of this conversation and assess the merits of each candidate, there can only be one winner.

But in reality, they choose the lesser (objectively the case) candidate. Why do you think they did?

And no, I'm not saying everyone is racist, exist or ignorant, I'm saying enough of these people voted to mean Trump will be President for the next 4 years. Am I wrong? Tell me how?

Pre 9/11 we did.

Agree with a lot of this.

There is a lot of Kool-Aid drinking by Harris supporters.

They are shocked that she didnt walk it, but I was saying for ages how bad she came across.

The Democratic primaries will be interesting. Will they go for another corporate Democratic machine candidate like Harris, and Clinton, or will someone emerge from the shadows and challenge the status quo like Sanders did?

You didn't ever need to look at the polls to come to the correct assessment.

When the extremely biased media weren't even saying that Harris was edging it you knew they knew she was behind.

The news media knew full well that Trump was ahead all along, just like they did in 2016 and then feigned being shocked at the result.

So much for a left wing news media you can trust.

And trump copied it off other politicians.

Your wrong, because you assume that black men, and Latinos are misogynistic or otherwise. Trump won these votes.

If you can't understand what has happened, your in a Rory Stewart bubble that utterly fails to see what affects ordinary Americans.

You still hold firm that she was a viable candidate without presenting any evidence to back up your claim. I make the argument that it was her team/strategy that let her down.