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Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,902 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,773 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I guess you just can't fix stupid.

    We'll see what happens in the next four years and how much of Project 2025 gets over the line, despite Trump…ahem…not knowing about it. We'll see what happens with the situation in Palestine. We'll see what happens with the Ukraine. We'll see what job he gives Musk (minister of propaganda maybe 😄 ).

    You're right, the Americans are not like us.

    The next four years will be interesting times, more than likely in the Chinese curse kind of way.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,694 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    …and don't forget the gays, there was a big gays for trump movement because of all that trans stuff. Didn't see any of that 4 or 8 years ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    More likely you will see him move to anoint a successor, perhaps his son.

    Yeah if he can engineer the succession of somebody not currently in the front rank of politics like one of the sons, Tucker or even Musk, or even just secure them the Republican nomination, that would kind of demonstrate he still owns 'the process'…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Not made with hands


    He is a lame duck president. 78. Achieved probably his final last big comeback in life.

    I can see him making a lot of noise when he gets in then doing absolutely nothing after that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,509 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    There is an open question that he could run as Vance's VP next time.

    That sort of question if it were to arise would certainly have to be answered by the SC.

    More chance Trump doesn't finish his next term though, than that ever happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    I hope this election can move the Democrats on from attacking Republican voters non-stop as if it helps. You ever notice Trump and everyone else attacks politicians and the media, but not normal people? Even people who voted outside of the two parties are attacked.

    It feels like left-leaning people are more people-orientated and think Trump should lose because of who he is, whereas right-leaning voters care about what's being said, even if it's being said by an idiot like an idiot.

    Talking down to people doesn't help and never will. People care about immediate things in their life, not the sanctity of the president. We have the likes of the Guardian constantly pushing articles about how it's ok to cheat on your partner but then expect voters to not vote for someone because they cheat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 571 ✭✭✭MurDawg


    Dems getting 214 seats in the house is my prediction

    America wants significant change



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    I got banned from here last week for saying Trump would win and again be a President of Peace. Back then near all posts were against him. Who is smoking the peace pipe now??



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,789 ✭✭✭yagan


    When you think back to his last stint aside from posing with a fragment of wall and the Huawei ban I can't think of anything he did. His trip to North Korea was trippy, and his meeting with Putin was spent bitching about domestic US politics with no mention of Crimea or the downed Malaysia flight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭BaywatchHQ


    I see that more females voted for Harris than males which is not surprising, many would just vote because of her gender. I also see that 80+% of black people voted for Harris. The stats remind me of my own country of Northern Ireland, people voting with tribal goggles. Maybe that is human nature.

    Irish people only seem to care about a president who has Irish heritage. The thing about Trump is that his mother was from a Gaelic heritage in the Scottish islands. I don't consider that too far removed from my heritage either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    Bad for Europe because he will probably reduce funding for NATO which he is entitled to and tax companies correctly which they are also entitled to do. Europe has to grow a set and stand on its own too feet. As for good old Ireland we need a proper economy not one built on inflated tax returns from property developers or American companies that are gone with the wind every few years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,086 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Unless the system is changed Musk is a no go as he is South African born not American.

    Probably Don Jr. the successor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 460 ✭✭Rooks


    I've been looking at Reddit today which is very heavily biased towards the Democrats and the comments are hilarious. They just don't seem to understand what has happened. They're just doubling down on the "everyone is racist" remarks. Will they ever learn?

    Like, yes, the core of Trump's support is probably the caricature you describe but clearly there is more to this result than that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭PixelCrafter


    Europe really needs to stand on its own two feet a lot more. There's a hypocrisy though in Americans lecturing the EU about that, as there's been a long, long strategy there which does not want to have an independent European military force. They strongly pushed the idea that anything in Europe goes through NATO, and often the UK has been the spokesperson and diplomatic enforcer for that point of view.

    The US also hasn't been overly keen on the EU projecting its own global economic strategies or the Euro becoming a second global reserve currency - they like Atlanticism and that has been the status quo since WWII. They like everything being traded in US$ and quite a lot of the other benefits of being in the position they've occupied since the 1940s.

    Trump breaks that in a big way and I think Europe really has got the resources, the gumption, the stability and the technology to get on with it at this point.

    What we don't have is the solitary though. EU member states always seem like 'good time friends'. When problems arise and stuff hits the fan, a lot of the time they're far too quick to just go back to national bolt holes. We're also a continent driven by penny pinching conservative book keepers in Germany mostly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 460 ✭✭Rooks


    Yeah I think Putin is going to change the EU's position on defense, especially if/when Trump starts pulling the plug.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Might force our lot to give a fcuk about Irish SMEs instead of expecting the multinationals to give us a decent economy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Exactly JD Vance will be the candidate for 2028 with hopefully Tulsi as his VP.

    Have to say delighted Trump won and by such a margin. I think he will have learned from his first term and be more effective for his second term. It should be an interesting 4 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,509 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    That lad doesn't mention any trans gender people.

    After 2 minutes of waffling he eventually volunteered he is voting for Trump because of the main stream media.

    🤷‍♂️



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Not made with hands


    His handling of COVID was a sh1tshow farce.

    Loved himself at his nightly briefings.

    Expect lots of bluster and executive orders to be signed in the first few months then he will be absentee landlord playing golf down in Florida.

    "Trump visited a Trump Organization property on 428 (nearly one in three) of the 1,461 days of his presidency and is estimated to have played 261 rounds of golf, one every 5.6 days."

    Expect him to beat both those stats easily this time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,131 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    I doubt that’s all you got banned for.


    Calm yourself now, good lad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,701 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I have to say I woke up this morning and heard the news and my heart just sank.

    I'm really gutted, some people just want the world to burn and trump would be the one putting the gasoline onto the fire.

    It's such a a sad state of affairs that a grifter and a morally bankrupt human being is back in the White House, the amount of damage this man will do to the world is frightening from trade wars to Ukraine

    I'm heart goes out to our neighbors Ukraine particularly, I'm gutted for them. All their fighting for their country, their families and their culture all now on the whims of Trump, it's god damn scary. Putin is over the moon, with this.

    I'm not a democrat fan but the Republican party has been invaded by the MAGA cult who have destroyed and twisted this party into what we see today.

    How anyone can vote for this party is beyond me and they'll get what they deserve no doubt in my mind



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    We're a continent turning right because of migration crisis directly caused by the US with its shlt foreign policy.

    It really is about time that Ireland dropped its neutrality and Europe made something of itself militarily. America is clearly and outspokenly done with it, unless it suits them. That we don't have any semblance of a European silicon valley for startups is just one indicator of how we're relying on the US for tech and the likes of Germany for production output, and that isn't working so well. Our livelihoods come from imports from places like China which American can just sanction and we have to go with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Not made with hands


    I don't think our neutrality stance matters.

    All the big European countries need to pull together on defence though.

    Putin can barely make inroads into Ukraine. I'm not sure how many more countries he can go to war with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,789 ✭✭✭yagan


    He talks as if the world is going to reorganise itself to suit his voters, kinda of like the Brexiters "they need us more than we need them" slock.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,184 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Americans rejected comprehensively woke, net zero, socialism, alphabet soup agendas etc. They know what it takes to have a successful nation built on freedom and strength.

    They don't care about the personal failures of the individual so long as they deliver.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭thereiver


    Working people were fed up with Biden. High inflation. Lack of control in the area of immigration. Biden has never had a logical policy in the war in Gaza except giving Israel billions of dollars of bombs so they can kill more civilians journalists and children and destroy all buildings in gaza

    Harris never showed that she had new ideas or policy's apart from the standard liberal consensus working people want a change so they voted for trump even Latinos and black voters voted for trump in large no,s

    She needed to voice policy's to help working class people

    All the pundits said it would be a close race a few per cent difference in votes by 2 am it was obvious trump would win

    There's good articles at guardian.co.uk and spectator UK why Harris lost to trump



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,024 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    https://sarahkendzior.substack.com/p/servants-of-the-mafia-state

    An article, from 2023, that lays out the path to today's result.

    TLDR Garland served as key person in ensuring that Trump and his acolytes faced no consequences for his attempted coup. Long read, but very informative.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,789 ✭✭✭yagan


    You do realise that trump moved the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem contra to the UN mandate for the creation of Israel.



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