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Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭Gerrymandering reborn


    Will Taylor Swift aka the Cat Lady be there as well?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,447 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    It will be hard for her to be magnanimous when her campaign considered the other side fascist Nazis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,961 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    The likelihood of Ukraine constructing their own nuclear weapons just went up massively, and if so, I would not be surprised if we see an exchange between them and Russia. I can't see Poland being willing to stand by and watch Ukraine abandoned to the wolves either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    The commentary from all sides is quite measured viewing CNN AND Fox. There is a strange amount of humility being shown all round.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,367 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    His VP called him Americas Hitler. 😁

    Anyway, hopefully she doesn't concede and storms the capital.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Astartes


    Hope he invades Ireland and switches off RTE. Like at the start of Die Hard 2



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,908 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Isn’t the criticism that democrats were/are terrible at explaining when things are going well on their watch.

    Also remember the inflation reduction act ? That from memory had actual good things in it, but the democrats wanted to push the price tag, and the republicans used it as a stick to beat them with. The democrats are bad are actually staying united as a party, and can’t explain things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭Gerrymandering reborn


    Don't worry, she will come out on stage wearing a burqa trying to woo Muslim voters in Michigan



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 978 ✭✭✭thegame983




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    It probably helps it was quite decisive. Was expecting it to be Friday by the earliest that we had an outcome.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭Novfith


    😂

    It's strange there hasn't been a concession yet from her. What is going on???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Exactly. Trump was bang on the money in his last term about rich EU nation's not meeting their 2% NATO target. And that was pre war in Ukraine. Everyone laughed at trump but if European NATO members were hitting those targets Ukraine could have received a lot more aid.

    With America tied up in a posturing match with China over Taiwan it was always important the EU had a strong military for global security but we were too busy getting into bed with Russia and China.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,808 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Taylor is in Canada doing the last few Eras shows. She would have known when they set the dates that Kamala would lose and had deliberately emigrated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭Novfith


    Yes I wonder how someone so ethical could peacefully hand over power to fascists, nazis and Hitler incarnate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    I hate the "go woke go broke" phrase but it would be interesting to see what the democrats make of blacks and Hispanics votes moving to endorse for Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,379 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    I reckon one of the Democrats' biggest fumbles in the last few years way turning abortion into a celebratory example of a woman's choice. Empowering etc.

    The majority of women "support" it, but not in the "women taking back control of their bodies" sort of way. They support it because they view it as necessary sometimes, not as a yay moment of being strong and independent.

    For women voters, especially older, I reckon the way it was painted has been crass and lost voters. Ireland has 12 weeks? Trump was being attacked for 16 weeks and that's at least a month or two of being aware.

    A total misstep.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭Gerrymandering reborn


    I'm Just so glad that working class Americans and middle class Americans basically normal people gave the big two fingers to all these celebrities endorsing Kamala Harris.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    All the time spent reading and analysing polls really proved a waste of time looking back,while it's not a big surprise Trump won very few I think really believed it would be done and dusted so quick .It must an awful phone call to make for Harris to Trump all the same .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,447 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I can't see how Dems can get those demographs back if they lean further into "wokeness".

    And I can't see how they stay together if they row back on it. Quite the quandary for them. It was a hornets nest that they should never have kicked



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,018 ✭✭✭✭PsychoPete


    An army of non binary blue haired hardcore leftists storming the capital would be hilarious



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I'm just surprised it took this long but then again with all the MSM bias maybe not as they've been fed Pro democrat propaganda 24/7.

    Hispanics and black men are less likely to be "woke" then whites so it was inevitable when the Dems went too far down that path. If trump does a good job it'll give JD a great platform going forward and I wouldn't be surprised to see his daughter or son running at some point in future either to keep the MAGA movement alive. The ball is in their court now.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,807 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    I'm surprised Harris hasn't conceded yet, I wonder if she will actually make a concession speech? Is she ghosting everyone?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,379 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    CNN is more objective now since John Malone the billionaire became an investor.

    They knew the old model wasnt making money so they have tried to appeal to a wider audience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,379 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    He can try all he wants but he wont be able to.

    He'd have to overturn the 22nd Amendment.

    It would be an extremely difficult process that would require passing a new constitutional amendment. This would need either a two thirds vote in both houses of congress or a constitutional convention called by two thirds of state legislatures to propose a new amendment. Even then, the amendment would need to be approved by 75% of state legislatures or state conventions.

    So its pretty much impossible. He will go when his term ends.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,447 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I just think it doesn't matter enough to enough of voters. The only cohort likely to be really exercised by it are women who are impacted by it, those 18-35 in a restricted State, and even then for many of those it won't be a leading issue.

    Compared to cost of living, economy or immigration,it looks like it's actually a niche one, one that gets far more attention than it warrants.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    To be fair when we had the referendum (which was unequivocally passed) there was huge traction with the approach like this. The Repeal jumper plebs garnered a serious audience. For me it was real conformation we have become a real secular society guided by our own knowledge. The place of religion is still much more ever-present in the US. Abortion was/is an emotive subject here but across the pond it's different level.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,149 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Price at the pump politics won .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭LastApacheInjun


    After being quite worried about the state of the world in 2016 when Brexit and Trump were voted for, I actually refuse to let this ruin my mood this time around.

    1. The Americans deserve what the vote for. We can't blame China, or Russian bots, or the likes of Tucker Carlson anymore. They had four years with him, and four years without him, and decided it was better with him. "Oh but what about women's rights and minority rights?". Huge amounts of minorities and women voted for him. Let them look inside their own communities for the answers.
    2. We seem to labour under a belief that Americans are just like us. Just because they are predominately white and speak English does not mean they are anything like us at all. Maybe back in the 40's/50's but not anymore. Their ingrained mistrust of every elected official, and of their own neighbouring states, their insistence that the right to carry a gun outweighs the right to a child's life and their systemic class system leads to me thinking they have way more in common with Russia or India than they do with Europe anymore.

    Set them adrift for the four years. I know it's not great for Ireland if he starts taxing the *rse out of the tech firms here, but to be honest, a Democrat could do that too.

    On their own heads be it.



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