Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

Great news for middle and south American drug cartels, ordinary people have nowhere to run away from them.

It's not done via 'our system' of a referendum. It's done via parliament and would need the support of some Democratic states.

In addition to being a left wing party they are also communists, marxists and facists. A lot of posters here seem to take their cue from Trump, be as triumphalist as possible, no class. Harris mightn't have been the strongest candidate but how can anyone actually like Trump?. He lies constantly, indulges in vulgar abuse and name calling, has a history of stiffing contractors, a convicted felon and rapist.

Lets see if he'll carry out his promise to pardon all the convicted J6rs. He accused the Democrats of weaponising the DOJ but you can bet he'll be trying to go after anyone that crossed him the last 4 years. Aileen Cannon will get a promotion for her work in delaying the prosocution for the taking of classified documents. Which he probably has still possesion of.

It really say a lot about America when what looks likes happened from result is a not insignificant number of men of all races who didn't like Trump just didn't bother voting because it would have meant voting for a woman.

Being a gun owner does not make you far right, in europe or anywhere.

the more I hear right/left wing on here, the more I'm convince people have no clue what they mean.

The democrats are centre-left. The republicans are centre-right.

The first female POTUS will be a Republican. It's seemingly to much of a stretch to ask your typical undereducated American man to vote for a woman that's also a Democrat.

My hope is that the Americans will survive their choice long enough to learn from it. Europe had to learn this lesson the very hard way.

What little comfort there is, is that there is no ambugiuty at all. The Americans clearly picked Trump this time, there is little in the way of EC shenanigans. The questions are now "Why?" and "Can they preserve their democracy for another 2-4 years?"

I hope this at least gives Europe as a whole a much needed impitious to take up the mantle of leading the Free World. We cannot rely on the Americans anymore. They were given a very simple choice between a moderate politician and convicted felon man-child who has repeatedly shown everyone how bad of a presidential pick he is, and they picked him anyway.

Much like the last time, the US is now going to be essentially headless for at least 4 years to come. That is the best case scenario, assuming that Project 2025 gouls who want to be in his cabinet are as feckless as your typical MAGA loon.

Oh and to all of our "centrist" friends. Just because the Americans made a very stupid choice this week, does not by virtue of their numbers make that choice any less stupid.

I'm done with American politics now as a hobby/interest. It was fun seeing all the goings-on, it was drama/chaos every day for the first four years of his administration. But it takes up too much of my brain space and I can't fathom how 50% of a highly advanced nation can get sucked into this charlatan.

As another poster said, Harris was an extremely competent, experienced woman who was part of a very successful administration and there is no reason she should not be president. I know she is not Obama who oozed charisma and to be honest that is all Trump has...he is an entertainer. He is like Maximus Decimus Meridius in Gladiator after cutting off the head of some poor auld soul and then shouting to the crowd "Are you not entertained?!" That gets the blood going to the masses...and they all cheer. I fully understand also he's their man. It's a team sport and you will never see a Liverpool fan cheering on Man Utd.

I do think inflation f**ked Harris even though it was a global problem and exacerbated by corporate greed with these ar*hes ramping up prices because they could. The administration got it under control a lot faster than the majority of other countries but people do feel it in their pockets, hell, I do as well, but I blame Putin for the war ramping gas prices and COVID for f**king up supply chains and corporate greed. Anyway, Trump is going to do fk all for the working Joe.

I see also from all Trump supporters, oh it's all the name calling and it's unfair and that's what got them wound up, it's so unfair they keep calling us racist, etc. but let's get a few things straight.

Being Racist It's not the Dems calling him a racist, it's the RACISTs calling Trump a racist...you don't see the racists (Proud Boys, 3 percenters, Boogaloo Boys etc. etc.) waving Harris flags, you don't see the Nazis waving swastikas waving Harris or Biden flags but they do wave Trump flags. So the racist Nazis see something in Trump; he is their man. You may not like it, but that's a fact.

Being a Misogynistic sexual predator Just convicted of civil liability of sexual assault, best friends with Jeffrey Epstein, multiples of women accusing him of sexual assault, "grab em by the p**sy" walking into dressing rooms of teenage pageants etc. etc.

Being dumb as a rock suggested injecting bleach for COVID, suggested they buy Greenland, thought you could nuke hurricanes, doesn't know how tariffs work 🙂 I could go on for days here, but he is as dumb as a rock.

Just a general arhole* again, could go on for days but generally mocking disabled journalists, mocking soldiers who got captured, refusing to go to a World War I or II graveyard to pay respects to fallen soldiers because it was raining, again, etc. etc.

*Cheat and Fraud too many convictions of fraud and business malpractice to list here

America can have him and enjoy the next few years of the pure and utter chaos...He will be unhinged and unshackled. I think Ukraine will continue, the EU (or Ukraine) will not allow the surrender of land which Trump will want. His utter bullshit about solving it in a day is a joke and is basically for Ukraine to give up!! What I do fear for is the Middle East. He will give Israel license to do whatever they want (not that they are holding back anyway) to continue their genocide and murder of the Palestinians. Settlers in the West Bank will ramp up and he will go after Iran.

For me, I think I will not be looking at American politics anymore (not in the medium term anyway) It's too frustrating and I can't get my head around it. Very long post, people probably won't read this, but needed to vent a bit.

I do think history will categorize Trump as the worst presidents ever and person, and it won't even be close. Scholars will write books on how he managed to pull the wool over people's eyes for so long.

Democrats are centre right - Maga is Right - Far Right.

"The greatest political movement of all time." FFS give us a break Donald.

It just show how fecking desperate Americans currently are.

What's he going to do? Scrap healthcare? Kick out all the migrants. Good luck with that.

The problem is American skilled workers won't get out of bed for less than $40 an hour. So China steps in with alternative product.

Your think a Republican US will turn its back on Israel? Do some history.

In fact, Trump was loved by Israel during his first term.

Nothing will change. The US are making a killing supplying weapons

Just their culture. They have this blowhard excessive, cinematic hero complex thing.

Well represented by the classic team america theme song.

Of which some missed the irony, and others doubled down on.

Now they likely have the house, senate, WH and Supreme Court… will Trump start the process to remove the 2 term limit?

Trump didn't cause COVID but his pathetic reaction to it caused him to lose the last election. Doesn't matter to him now, he got his second turn in the end.