Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

Red wave? One that results in a house of representatives at almost 50/50 and still up for grabs

Maybe I'm looking at the wrong parts of the Internet today, but the liberal shock over Harris defeat seems to be a lot less than Clinton in 2016. Maybe it's because it wasn't as close as it was thought or deep down few people believed in Harris.

I felt she was an uninspiring choice as candidate as she hadn't used her four years to stand out from Biden. She was anonymous, unlike Biden when he VP. Bidens choice to drop out so late though did leave them with little choice but to go with her.

"Celebrity bullsht"

Like the president and vice president they just elected 🤔

There's no question that force of will won over intelligence last night, emphasis on force. The Democrats forced good people to vote Trump by leaving them in the dark as to why their lives were sh+tter then they were 8 years ago. I say 8 because it was Trumps disastrous handling of the pandemic that cost him 4 years ago and intelligent people could see that. As with everything though, this too shall pass.

At least with the looney left loosing it now means that the resulting riots will be “mostly peaceful”.

Possibly because in 2016 there was a lot of "they can't possibly elect him, can they?", whereas now we know they absolutely can.

How far back are we going here?

It was laughable the way they kept referring to Kamala Harris as "Extreme left" and "far left". On most of her policies, particularly economics, she's somewhere to the right of Mrs Thatcher and on many of her social policies she's more conservative than Fine Gael or most of the Tory Party.

"Left" "Social" "Liberal" "Woke" etc etc are all just terms of abuse in the US. They're meaningless.

They just make crap up and throw mud at the wall and see what sticks. It's a completely broken democracy that has more in common with parts of South America or even Russia these days.

Rules of fair play are just not there at all. You can make shite up and just say anything at all about your opponent without any need to fact check or consequences for just telling blatant lies.

He can try. He has no reason not to. He will likely have Republican control of both houses, a Supreme Court in his favour, in addition to all the Trump/MAGA appointees already in place and he's spent ten years sowing distrust in the media, the State apparatus and anyone that disagrees with him or he disagrees with. He's said plenty in his campaigning to suggest he wants to try it and the voters have given him the keys.

This will be a test of how strong the Constitution is if he actually wants to try it. That is the question.

Trump will be president.

The Republicans will control the House and the Senate.

Trump has complete control over the Republican party.

The Supreme Court is Republican controlled.

Is the Constitution the only remaining "check and balance" to US democracy?

Two weeks ago I felt fairly sure Trump would win, but in recent days I let hope and an echo chamber get the better of me and put €100 on Harris to win.

As expected, now that he has won decisively, the post-mortem tearing her and the Dems to bits has begun. A lot of it is more than justified and can be applied to our own left wing parties here also, but I just don’t know why they think Trump will solve any of the decline that has been accelerating for decades.

And it is depressing that it feels like any woman candidate is held to such a much higher standard, whereas he is held to no standards at all. Or is that too simplistic? I just wish they had had a primary, and probably should have just run a man to eliminate that risk altogether, whether I’m imagining it or not.

Listening to his hate-filled shite for the next 4+ years is gonna be tough. Does anyone know if he’s legally allowed to run again in 2028?

As long as the House and Senate don't get anywhere near a 2/3 majority for MAGA the constitution or 3/4 of State Legislatures, at least can't be amended. If that shifts, the US is basically going to end up with massive shift into something unrecognisable.

AFAIK, it's a two terms in office only rule which applies whether the terms are consecutive or separate.

A great day for the cats and dogs of Springfield!