Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

Trump doesn't care, in the eyes of the world, that he is the worst political communicator that the world has ever seen.

He is just lapping up the glory of this night as he feels he deserves it. There is no real cohesion in his speech to what he actually wants to do next after winning this stunning election result. It's going to make us even more confused what he wants to do with the presidency as soon he gets into the White House again from January 2025.

And we have to put up with a lot more of his meandering statements for the next 4 years. I don't even know how the Americans voters are going to swallow from taking in Trump's victory speech as we go through the rest of today. What are the democratic voters going to think of this victory for Trump and the Republican party? Are they going to just sit there and take it in as a huge defeat as this huge win for the Republicans is now a reality.

They wouldn't dare to think about do something else about this result or just accept it?

As I am writing this post right now; I'm hearing that Trump Campaign HQ in Florida is currently playing Nothing Compares 2 U from Sinead O'Connor on CNN right now. I bet her family with seething with rage with her song being played there right now.

Oh you mean like Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, and Switzerland who dont have flouride in the water? Maga bastards! I mean really, calm down. It will be ok.

Another 4 years of this dose, I will be avoiding the news. Last time he was president almost ever news headline on TV was about him. Just a pity Kamala Harris was the best the democrats could put forward after Biden stayed too long.

He is a danger to the economic stability of Europe, only thing I agree with him on is immigration.

The dem's will get it next time, think a good strategy for them is to go all out on the identity politics with a sprinkle of condescendence.

Bad news for Ireland, a republican clean sweep makes corporation tax reform more likely. The reshoring of jobs could be a double whammy.

An embarrassing night for the media both here and abroad. The amount of unadulterated propaganda, lies, and disinformation they pushed was through the roof.

That was literally the point of Trumps campaign, that America was a terrible place to live because of inflation, immigrants, the woke etc. and he'd fix it all?.

I don’t blame Harris that much to be honest and I never did - I would have liked to see her succeed- Biden’s indecision on not going early prevented a proper selection process - I’m not convinced she would have made the cut- even listening to her the other evening I wasn’t at all convinced by either what she said or how she said it - and Americans obviously aren’t either.
They relied too much on the “traditional” ethnic votes - they’re gone now as are the “traditional” blue collar worker vote- it’s every man and woman for themselves .

Interestingly in Arizona they approved by 63% an amendment enshrining abortion rights in the state constitution, (NBC News projects.)

But even then that didn’t stop them from turning around and voting for Trump - I saw people , many people ridicule those who said they felt Trump might win in 2016- while this was much harder to call, the ridicule still continues.

What’s that shown to me, is that we’re in a very precarious position here in Ireland and the main parties of FF and FG need to stop assuming just because someone has traditionally voted for them that they won’t turn on their heels and vote for an entirely unlikely party or person - we’re not that far off that place especially with immigration and housing being two massive election issues

In fairness it is a prince song

Its the 'states' bit that takes precedence, hence the electoral college, then 'united' …

🤣Trump a Christian?

It's people like you who are the reason Trump won/Harris lost (if that is confirmed).

You live in an echo chamber and so whenever anyone points out a flaw with Harris and maybe why Trump and his rhetoric appeals to people you think they are some lunatic Trump supporter rather than someone making a fairly rational point.

I don't like Trump he's a scumbag and a generally despicable human being in my opinion however I can at least see how he can appeal to people (remember they are not voting for someone to be their best friend and someone they have to interact with on a daily basis they are just voting for someone to do a high profile government job).

As soon as anyone posted any criticism of Harris on this thread about 4 or 5 posters commented in oppositions almost instantaneously and lept on them like a pride of Lions , it was incredible the co-ordination of the people in this thread to try and quell any dissent.

Elections in America are a popularity contest almost all the people who have won them in the Television era (Eisenhower onwards) have some degree of charm and affability and perform well in front of the camera (Nixon and Bush senior being the outliers). The 2 candidates who Trump has beaten are complete charm vacuums they don't come across well on the camera they don't come across as likeable .The reason Biden was able to beat Trump is he does ome cross well on TV and seems somewhat charming same applies for the previous 2 Democrat Presidents in Obama and Clinton.

The problem is it's difficult for the Democrats to find someone like they anymore because they are too busy being sneery and condescending towards anyone who disagrees with them and it'll be the same this time they're will be no self reflection from them and they'll probably pick another charmless candidate in 4 years time who'll just hope that belittling people is enough to get their votes

I'll go halves with you

Given some of the left wing anti Kamala sentiment, she might have