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Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,455 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    That was so 2016, Donald. You need new material.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    fuckoffski

    Mod Edit: Warning issued for uncivil posting

    Post edited by Necro on

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The economic Outlook with a Trump administration is pretty dire....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,289 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Imagine!

    If Donnie could manage anything more athletic than fumbling a door handle?

    For example baseball...

    He'd be batting a .31 average 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    'some cities' indeed, the cherrypicking of data going on. "Honest assessment" eh

    Data on organized retail theft is scarce. Most statistics that are in circulation come not from law enforcement but from industry groups: the National Retail Federation (NRF), a trade association of more than 16,000 retailers, and the Retail Industry Leaders Association (RILA), representing more than 200 of the country’s leading retailers including CVS, Walgreens, Target, and Costco.

    However, many of the figures offered by these organizations are imprecise. In April 2023, for example, the NRF claimed that organized retail theft was responsible for nearly half the $94.5 billion in store merchandise that disappeared in 2021. The claim was widely repeated and offered as hard evidence of a nationwide wave in retail theft justifying new laws and increased criminal penalties.

    The claim has since been retracted following an investigation by the trade publication Retail Dive. The NRF had based its estimate on a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing from 2021, where an industry spokesperson testified that organized retail theft totaled $45 billion annually. That figure, which was also repeated extensively in mainstream publications, was in fact an earlier NRF estimate of total retail shrink in 2015 and had nothing to do with organized retail theft. Mistakenly or otherwise, the NRF had essentially repackaged its own data.

    According to one review of NRF data, the impact of organized retail crime “is probably closer to” 5 percent of total shrink. In any event, the NRF “no longer releases financial costs specific” to organized retail theft, a spokesperson told Retail Dive, because reported losses are “lower than what the NRF expects them to be.”

    Other industry data is simply not comprehensive enough to support the broad conclusions being drawn from it by leaders in the media, government, and business. Some have pointed to $69 billion as the annual value of organized retail theft, citing a recent report by the RILA. But that report estimated the value of all retail theft at $69 billion, not the subset of organized theft — a distinction the RILA’s own website obscures. The study was also based on data from just five Fortune 500 companies, a small and likely unrepresentative sample, leading even the NRF to question its methodology.

    Still others point to surveys conducted by the NRF, which report member experiences with security and organized retail theft. These surveys combine reports of member perceptions with voluntarily reported data, so they may not be representative. In 2023, for example, just 117 retailers responded to the survey. The most commonly quoted surveys are from 2021 and 2022 when the surveys had just 41 and 63 respondents respectively. These are extremely small sample sizes relative to the tens of thousands of retailers in the United States, and statistics generated from it may have more to do with who chose to respond to the survey than with overall sector trends.

    • • •

    Retail theft — and specifically shoplifting — does not appear to be rising nationally, though certain cities, including New York, are indeed facing historically elevated levels of theft. Unfortunately, data on “organized” retail theft is unreliable, obscuring our understanding of the problem. Those concerned about the impacts of organized theft should focus on developing clearer data to help inform policymakers and law enforcement as they search for solutions.

    Until that clarity materializes, it would be a mistake to jump to sweeping responses such as lowering felony theft thresholds or instituting new penalties, especially given the mixed and nuanced evidence on the effects of the former.

    https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/myth-vs-reality-trends-retail-theft

    And after spiking rapidly under the Trump administration Fentanyl overdose rates have in fact, slowed under the Biden administration. Huh.

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    And even fell in 2023:

    https://www.kff.org/mental-health/issue-brief/opioid-deaths-fell-in-mid-2023-but-progress-is-uneven-and-future-trends-are-uncertain/

    Although provisional CDC data show a decline in opioid deaths in 2023, the death toll remains much higher than just a few years ago, keeping this issue in the spotlight. Both former President Trump and Vice President Harris have records related to addressing the opioid epidemic, but they also have proposed different approaches to ongoing and future efforts to address the issue. Trump’s 2024 campaign emphasizes a stricter law enforcement strategy aimed at reducing trafficking, primarily through reinstating and tightening border policies and tougher punishment, including the death penalty for “traffickers and drug smugglers.” In contrast, the Biden-Harris administration’s multi-pronged strategy includes reducing supply, expanding harm reduction, and improving access to treatment, with Harris placing a stronger emphasis on increasing fentanyl seizures through enhanced detection technology at the border and ports. Along with the 1 in 3 adults who report in a KFF survey that they or a family member have been addicted to opioids (29%) or illegal drugs (27%), both President Biden and Vice-Presidential hopeful J.D. Vance have close family members who have experienced addiction.

    And honest assessment shows that for making national policy, and the President of the United States not being the mayor of New York etc., Biden's administration has done a grand job on both these counts.

    (NYC would probably be better off with a noncorrupt mayor, Adams is in a lotttt of sh*t with… who else? but Biden's DOJ. Funny that.)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,163 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    There is this joke about garbage ….oh wait no …that was already done by the Democrats😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Real men vote for their daughters, not for dumpsters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,613 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Somebody is panicking.

    Screenshot_2024-11-05-22-04-56-87_0b2fce7a16bf2b728d6ffa28c8d60efb~2.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 960 ✭✭✭Get Real


    I find it interesting how the most trivial things are taken as a point scored against the "other side" in American politics.

    I also find it unusual that Irish people, who will never get to vote in a US presidential election, also become involved in such things and find them funny or a gotcha moment against a particular candidate (I couldn't care less whether it's a point scored against Trump or Harris)

    An example- gotcha moment on Harris having the camera app open on a phone when it was alleged she was on a call to a voter. Countless comments from Republicans about how it shows how foolish of her it is, she has to stage it etc etc. You don't think all candidate stage things at times in campaigns? You don't think Trump staged serving his McDonald's Drive thru?

    Likewise, a gotcha moment on Trump- leaked footage by Courier newsroom of Trump asking questions before a Presidential debate. (He asks fairly basic things, about the timer clock, will the mic always be on, how long can he run over, what format the replies will be in etc) There's a caption saying "nervous Trump" and democrats in the comments having a field day about how bad he looks. You don't think these are questions Harris would have also asked? Where's the footage of her being shown the setup? I'm fairly sure she'd act the same way. And, if she did, Democrats wouldn't have issue with it.

    In both cases, it's absolutely bizarre to me. These things made out to be wins or losses, that if their own candidate did, no comment would be made. So we can acknowledge it's all meaningless. It's a weird "no, WE'RE better" based on absolute nonsense, and nothing to do with the running of a country.

    Sure, we have our own political things like that. But I've never seen anything so petty and hypocritical from both sides. I wouldn't vote for either candidate. The electorate truly do get the politicians they deserve. And in both cases, neither of them are any use.

    Post edited by Get Real on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,042 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Talks about cherry picked data, posts a load of waffle from liberal organisations.

    If someone posted equivalent guff from conservative organisations you'd be protesting about the reliability of the sources

    Get some non partisan sources and we'll talk.

    Glazers Out!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭rogber


    Good luck Kamala. Checking out till morning, hope to be back to toast her victory



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,942 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    first CNN exit poll is in and…. People are Dissatisfied !!!! Dissatisfied and angry !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭lizzyjane


    Well the global shock arose from the Democrats foreign policy and their awful decision to use war war and not jaw jaw in Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,730 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,519 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,682 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    People told him that if he took up baseball he would have been the greatest baseball player the world has ever seen. People told him that they had never seen someone pitch with so much accuracy as he did, they also told him that he had beaten Kim Jong Un's world record for home runs in just one practice session.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,533 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    First NBC news exit polls and the state of democracy is top at 36%. The economy is 30% immigration is fourth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭lizzyjane


    Did i use some hurty hurty words that your brain could only process with replying like a 6 year old schoolyard bully?

    Mod Edit: Warning issued for uncivil posting

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭pad406


    OMG do you all have a playbook? Just the same thing regurgitated over and over again with slightly different phrasing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,130 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Rooted in the divisions ironically. Countries that describe themselves as deeply divided tend not to be happy or satisfied.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 841 ✭✭✭False Prophet


    Pointless poll as both sides are dissatisfied or angry imo.

    Dems with abortion laws etc.

    Rup with cost of living etc

    same poll in ireland would give similar results but still going to return the ff/fgticket



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,455 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,898 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    What is there to "jaw jaw" about with Putin? You think that hasn't been tried? He (further) invaded a country...the Americans rightly backed Ukraine to defend itself, as did the EU etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Statista is a liberal organization?

    You’ve lost the plot there and any veneer of credibility. Try again another day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,289 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    The Democrats invaded Ukraine? Yeah, you've gone from only knowing the US data a few minutes ago. To now knowing that those pesky Dems were behind the invasion of Ukraine all along. Crazy that those pesky Dems managed to force Russia into an invasion. Managed to somehow garner a win out of the Battle of Kiev, and then...

    Those pesky Dems started bombing grain silos, ports and ships in the Black Sea.

    Even more incredible?

    That you've figured all this out within minutes of knowing SFA about US inflation or economic performance Vis a Vis the rest of the world...

    Absolutely incredible synthesis of new information there and all to still reach a shíte hypothesis.!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,533 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    it’s not all sunshine and rainbows and the initial exit poll shows that trump is only 4% ahead of Harris on immigration I think it was, where he was ahead by double figures.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭lizzyjane


    But they didnt back them, they have sent hundreds of thousands of them to their deaths.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,289 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    If only he could keep his pitching arm from grabbing pussy?

    He could a been the greatest all rounder ever 😉😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,163 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    It was never about anything else - economy was always #1



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭pad406


    Surely democracy at 36%, +6% over the economy would be good news for Harris?



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