Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

I outlined the reasons to another poster. Of course I might be wrong but I'm quite confident on this one now after being pessimistic a week ago, due to the factors I explained and which I think are pretty solid rather than just wishful thinking. We'll find out tomorrow morning

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Trump was the same casting his vote in 2016, along the lines of "we'll see what happens, we left everything on the field". The mask slips sometimes, he knows it's very close and there's a good possibility of him losing. It's election day, there's nothing left to be done besides waiting now.

I haven't logged in for a while but noticed I got bombarded for calling Harris a weak candidate. I want her to win, I don't want to see the US go down the route of a Hungary or Belarus. I think there's too many checks and balances in place for it to deteriorate awfully but who knows what could happen with someone like Trump and his cronies with power.

This left/right nonsense is toxic. People should be able to criticize a candidate and not expect grueling replies like I'm attacking their own character somehow. Views can be mutually inclusive, i.e. seeing Harris as a weak candidate but also wanting her to win. I would have liked to see someone like a Amy Klobuchar run.

Anyway have at it.

Given how the Republican Party doubled down so hard on Team Trump and MAGAfication if Trump doesn't win will they try to wheel him out again in 4 years time if hes alive or will they just pivot to Ivanka leading them to try and lure females back to their side?

They have may have utterly screwed themselves for a generation going all in on Donnie to the level they had.

I'd not be surprised if more people vote for Harris than Biden, as the vote in reality is not for them, it's simply against Trump. They can brag about getting the most votes ever, but the reality is a huge percent of those who voted for them didn't even want them as President, it was purely to prevent Trump from winning. This gives Harris a great chance to win.

The dildo of Realisation never arrives lubed

if Trump doesn't win will they try to wheel him out again in 4 years time if hes alive or will they just pivot to Ivanka leading them to try and lure females back to their side?

No. He loses today, he's never going on a ballot again.

I don't think Ivanka is interested at this point. She was I feel in 2016-2019, remember her trying to join in in conversations at a G20 conference in 2019, but she has been nowhere this campaign and I'd say she doesn't have the stomach for going back in to this space.

Besides, I think the GOP will have Niki Halley to attract female voters in 2028. If for some reason Trump had pulled out and endorsed her like Biden did Harris, she could well be favourite today.

The betting market is still largely total guesswork, nobody has any inside info. The real fun and games will start after midnight - 1am, that will be the time to start watching the market and to see how it is reacting.

Trump with a pulse wont endorse anyone but himself (or possibly the daughter that turns him on). Unless theres a full purge where all MAGA's are binned and "RINOs" are handed the reins again I dont see how they can break free from the cult they've embraced.

It'd be easier to leave Scientology.

Reports seem to be saying there is a very big male turnout so far.

Musk was on Rogan yesterday pleading with men to vote, might be working.

Unless they oppose him how do they escape?

Out of the game apparently

He didn't have the sense to ask her to be VP or not to publicly insult her during all the primaries

They can't because Trump will light them up on social media and MAGA will turn on them. Most of the top brass like all the Democrats privately absolutely despise Trump and what he's done to their party. MAGA is a tumour on the party they'll be hoping they won't have to amputate themselves and that Trump will just go away after this.

Not exactly.

Since 2016, Trump endorsed candidates have not by and large done well. I think this is why he appears so much on his own this campaign rather than influential GOP people being on stage with him in the same way that Harris has had.

Mitch McConnel, Lyndsey Graham, Kevin McCarthy all initially came out against him after Jan 6th, even Fox news did in 2022. I feel they are just waiting for him to be weak enough that they can pull or push aside. He wasn't then, I feel he is now, particularly if he loses again.