Waterford Airport.

I think the airport management team is a stumbling block here. They had a good team about a decade ago and were very vocal and active in marketing. That has all drifted away and they seem to have given up on the turbo prop business potential for now. If that was at least there it would help the business case massively as it shows a track record and existent demand

Govt business cases are not normal commercial documents - they have a set method that needs a public sector mindset- the hidden language of IEEGS...

Unless govt politicians (like Darcy, Cummins, Butler and o'Caiseagh) to nurse it through. Otherwise Dept will take 10 months to say something they knew 5 minutes after receiving the case.

This what Cork TDs do for their airport. This is a political mess. Only waking up now as the GE comes into focus.

so what is the amount of money needed?? €28m. Or €15m??

And how much have they got on paper committed from the Govt?? €6m

where did you get this from, have you a copy of the doc or going on hear say/pub talk from someone…?

Damien Tiernan has the document up on twitter also

He also didn't know who or how many people were on the board, and he only every attended 1 board meeting!! You couldn't make it up!!

The city council land thing is the reddest of red herrings. Aside from the fact that it is probably almost worthless anyway given that is why the site was chosen originally, the City Council just needs to restrict usage on the deed of transfer to Airport facilities only or the land reverts.
The turbo prop thing must be a somebody having a joke??? The entire purpose of building a runway to accommodate jets is because turbo prop services were not viable. Not for Aer Lingus linking Dublin nor a myriad of smaller outfits flying direct to the UK. But they want us to source another airline who are willing to try something that didn’t succeed all these other times? What’s that definition of madness again?

Whats gonna happen then? is the airport going to have to make a new business case after what eamon ryan has said?

Your absolute confidence in your answer is a classic example of the Kruger Dunning effect on full display. You're practically grunting "rich man get poor man land for free…."The world isn't that binary or black and white. We live in a world where it is no longer easy for government bodies to provide financial incentives for things like transport due to EU directives and treaties. If the local government can create a legal workaround by providing the land, that as someone said is practically useless for anything else then they should do it. As long as there are legal caveats that ensure that if the project stays moribund for, let's say five years then the land goes back in to the ownership of the LA. I believe there is/was a similar condition with the North Quays. It's not hard to understand. The IDA do it all the time.

You don't need to be an intellectual to see how utterly simple minded your argument is. Now why don't you use the same "intellectual" power that enabled you to Google "Dunning-Kruger" and try and work out a proper argument rather than "booga booga.. rich men given land". I will keep it simple for you! To give someone cheap land as an incentive to develop an airport is perfectly reasonable if there and legal conditions applied that stops them from hoarding the land for speculation.This is what was done with the North Quays. You seem to think that hoarding land is all that the Comey brothers do probably based on you reading somewhere that they have a property portfolio. The money that they are looking for from the government is peanuts! Roughly twice what was fluttered away in state aid on an art house cinema in Galway.

I'd be tending to agree with you on this, there is a bang of Lyle Lanley off the whole thing, and caution is required before signing over any public land to property developers.

Forgive me for saying so and please dont take offence, but neither you nor Blackwhite have any understanding of the land issue.

In this case the definition of madness appears to be thinking that, at an airport where 70 seater turboprops aren't even viable, 200 seater jets somehow will be.

In this case the definition of "innumerate" is Cosmo Kramer not understanding why 200 is better than 70 when it comes to moving people around.