Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

What if the teacher got fired from the job he had for four years and before he left he riled up some of his buddies by saying he doesn't want to leave and then they spread lies on social media and they and others go and smash up the Department of Education so he could keep that job? Still a qualified teacher though. Are you still giving him the job back?

"I just fail to see the appeal of Walz and Harris"

I might disagree with some of Harris policy specifics and I wasn't keen on her running but they are relatively normal candidates with relatively normal views.

This is not just a view within the US, if e.g. Irish people could vote in this binary election, Harris/Walz would get 80% to 90% of their vote. Likewise globally.

Trump is in a completely unhinged category of his own. So much so that his supporters have difficulty defending him and instead focus exclusively on nitpicking two relatively normal candidates.

The claims that these abortions happened because the mother had something better to do that weekend and wanted to get rid of the baby for sh1ts and giggles and some Instagram posts are nothing but appalling lies and propaganda by useful idiots.

Quote from a Fox9 article:

"All of them were because there was something found during that pregnancy in a regular prenatal exam that found that that baby was incompatible with life," said Sen. Alice Mann, (DFL)-Bloomington. "That baby, as soon as it was born, would die or was already dying."

https://www.fox9.com/news/fact-check-minnesota-anti-abortion-ad-campaign

It depends on who you know I spose.

I know may people of different political leanings, some of whom would lean into the "far left" category (whatever that really means) and none of them would be supportive of Donald Trump or anything that's in his orbit.

The thing is people can have opinions that reside outside their perceived political bias, as the old Thatcherite guys that I know who are very vocal on climate change and were vehemently anti-Brexit, even more so than some of the folk I know who's needle would be more centred.

As for conspiracies and rabbitholes, I'd say those can run the whole gamut of political beliefs, with the only overlap on the Venn diagram being too much time on the internet probably. Going "off the rails" isn't limited to one side of the political aisle.

I think it's prudent to generally not tend to assign a given position on an given subject to a person's perceived political leanings. Not everyone who believes in climate change leans left for example, despite what some people might tell you.

I mean, there's probably genuine honest to shit neo-nazis out there that are supportive of Israel and what they're getting up to in the Middle East, at present, because they're currently in the grip of a hard right government.

This is of course the mantra of the party that last won the popular vote in 2004 (before that in 1988) and they have realised that white, conservative Christians will soon constitute a minority and the only way the can win is by cheating.

Fyi I've a relation in Philly, registered as an independent.

Over 48 hours, he has 6 groups of Harris activists call to his door. He had zero from Trump.

From US.gov

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Other states will let you cast a provisional ballot.

• States use provisional ballots when there is a question about a voter's eligibility.
• They keep your provisional ballot separate until they investigate your eligibility. You may have to return to show an acceptable form of ID within a few days, or the ballot will not count.

Learn more about provisional ballots and if you may need to cast one in your state.

The gist of your post seemed to be concerned with the tiny few compared with the millions, as if they were being picked on because of whom they were linked to due to their illegal activity. It doesn't take much to understand.

I really can't wait to see if RFK Jr staying on the ballot has enough of an effect that it costs Trump a state. That would just be hilarious.

Are there any genuinely conservative third-party candidates of any prominence though? You would have to stretch the definition to breaking point to accommodate RFK I suppose but he still might take more votes off Trump than off Harris, despite him not even being in the race…

Fair enough - with less than 12,000 votes separating Trump and Biden in one state in the last election I guess I was thinking these minor candidates could still have a role to play in preventing one or other of the main candidates from winning