Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

I have to quote this again, it's so apalling.

This is an absolutely outrageous claim and if you don't provide some links to back this up, I have to assume that this statement has no basis in reality. And fairly lively if you please.

”JD Vance told Rogan” “Pro Abortion Institute”

I’ll stop reading right there. A or B?

Look, there aren't formal qualifications for the job of President in the sense that a practicimg lawyer has to have passed his/her Bar examinations.

But, if you have already been twice impeached (a record), have been convicted on 30+ felony counts, and have been involved in inciting a riot to prevent the election of you successor, that's enough to disqualify you in political terms. After all it is a political judgement for voters, not a judgement on a professional qualification.

Exactly.

So I actually went to the effort to find the cases you're referring to. They were in 2021 so before the actual legislation you've been complaining about. One instance was a fetal anomaly that simply led to the death. Two involved comfort care but they didn't survive. The final two simply were never gonna survive outside of the womb. In addition, no details are given on why the abortions were sought but in all likelihood, there were medical reasons to do so cause that's why such abortions generally happen. It has nothing to do with the legislation you are outraged about btw. No such cases were reported in 2022.

It is literally the same thing, an abortion.

I don't think you'll find any definition of abortion that includes the term elective.

Voter fraud is a complete red herring.

While you can find examples of individuals who try to vote multiple times, or vote when they're not registered/entitled to vote, these are absolutely tiny numbers compared to the hundreds of thousands of actual geniune votes that are not counted in every single election in the US, often due to deliberate tactics by one side or the other, to disenfranchise voters.

Election fraud has actually happened many times, and the US has a really long and detailed history of the struggles between corrupt election officials, and advocates for free and open elections.

Jim Crowe laws for example, were mostly aimed at corrupting of the election process to prevent black voters from accessing their votes

Redistricting, (Jerrymandering)

Bulk Purging election registers to remove legitimate voters likely to vote for one party over another

People sent to election centres to 'challenge' voters deliberately to intimidate and disenfranchise voters

Vote buying schemes, such as the one Elon Musk is doing right now with his 'lottery'

In fact, here just some examples out of thousands of election fraud that happened in the US over the past half century

1. 1972 - Watergate Scandal

• Political operatives linked to President Nixon’s reelection campaign attempted to spy on the Democratic National Committee. This interference in the democratic process led to Nixon’s resignation.

2. 1982 - Chicago, Illinois (Operation Greylord)

• A federal investigation exposed widespread corruption involving judges, politicians, and other public officials who engaged in election tampering and vote buying.

3. 1984 - Arkansas (Voter Registration Manipulation)

• In Arkansas, political operatives manipulated voter rolls to favor certain candidates, registering fictitious voters and disenfranchising others.

4. 1987 - Kentucky (Absentee Ballot Fraud)

• Organized bribery of voters in Kentucky by political operatives included filling out absentee ballots fraudulently and influencing elections through absentee ballot tampering.

5. 1997 - Miami, Florida Mayoral Election

• Fraud involving over 5,000 fraudulent absentee ballots was exposed, resulting in the annulment of the election. A judge found that operatives coordinated to sway the mayoral race through these ballots.

6. 2000 - St. Louis, Missouri (Tampering with Poll Hours and Rolls)

• An organized attempt to extend poll hours in specific districts to influence results led to legal challenges. Investigations uncovered tampering and irregularities in voter rolls.

7. 2002 - New Hampshire (Phone Jamming Scandal)

• In the 2002 Senate race, Republican operatives jammed phone lines for Democratic “get-out-the-vote” efforts, which was later deemed a coordinated attempt to disrupt the election process.

8. 2004 - East St. Louis, Illinois (Vote Buying)

• Local officials and political operatives were found guilty of buying votes to secure victories in local elections. The scheme involved cash payments and favors in exchange for votes.

9. 2005 - Milwaukee, Wisconsin (Election Equipment Tampering)

• An organized effort by election workers led to tampering with election machines and absentee ballot handling, prompting a federal investigation.

10. 2008 - ACORN Voter Registration Fraud

• While ACORN itself was not a case of election fraud, the large-scale falsification of voter registration forms by a coordinated group of workers prompted concerns about potential election manipulation.

11. 2009 - Troy, New York (Absentee Ballot Scheme)

• Officials forged absentee ballots to ensure victory in a local primary election, with several local politicians convicted in a scheme to influence the vote.

12. 2012 - Florida (Absentee Ballot Fraud Ring)

• Political operatives manipulated absentee ballots to favor candidates in several races, with the case leading to arrests of those involved in the fraudulent handling of ballots.

13. 2013 - Indiana (Organized Voter Registration Manipulation)

• An organized effort by a political group submitted numerous fraudulent voter registrations, manipulating the rolls for upcoming elections.

14. 2014 - North Carolina (Double Voting and Voter List Mismanagement)

• A large-scale investigation into double voting uncovered attempts by organized groups to exploit voter list management to influence election results.

15. 2016 - Texas (Organized Mail-In Ballot Harvesting)

• A scheme involved harvesting and manipulating mail-in ballots. Operatives were arrested for attempting to sway elections by collecting and illegally handling mail-in ballots.

16. 2016 - Arizona (Illegal Ballot Harvesting)

• Unauthorized ballot collection methods were exposed, prompting Arizona to pass legislation to curb ballot harvesting due to the risk of election interference.

17. 2017 - New Jersey (Election Official Voter Intimidation)

• Officials were accused of voter intimidation to sway election results in a local race, resulting in a court-ordered settlement restricting certain election-day activities.

18. 2018 - North Carolina 9th Congressional District (Absentee Ballot Tampering)

• A major election fraud case involved operatives tampering with and manipulating absentee ballots, ultimately leading to the nullification of the election results and criminal charges.

19. 2019 - Texas (Non-Citizen Voting and Voter List Manipulation)

• A review found coordinated attempts to influence voter rolls with non-citizen registrations, resulting in investigations and additional measures to prevent election interference.

20. 2020 - California (Unauthorized Drop Boxes by Political Groups)

• Unauthorized ballot drop boxes were placed by political groups, prompting court challenges and removals to prevent potential election tampering.

21. 2020 - Nevada (Deceased Voters on Rolls)

• Instances of deceased individuals on voter rolls led to court-ordered reviews and changes, exposing issues with managing voter rolls by officials.

22. 2020 - Pennsylvania (Mail-In Ballot Discrepancies)

• Discrepancies in handling mail-in ballots by election officials led to a series of court challenges and review of the voting processes.

23. 2020 - Georgia (Ballot Handling Irregularities)

• Reports of miscounts and improper ballot handling led to court-supervised recounts and exposed weaknesses in the ballot-counting procedures.

24. 2021 - Virginia (Improper Voter Registrations)

• An organized effort involving hundreds of improper voter registrations prompted an official review and policy changes to improve registration oversight.

25. 2022 - Wisconsin (Nursing Home Voting Irregularities)

• Claims that nursing home staff had improperly assisted residents in voting led to investigations and legislative reviews to prevent future tampering.

26. 2022 - Pennsylvania (Court-Ordered Voter Roll Cleanup)

• Lawsuits revealed significant discrepancies in the voter rolls, prompting court-ordered roll cleanups to prevent voter manipulation.

27. 2023 - Texas (Illegal Ballot Harvesting Investigation)

• Authorities uncovered an organized group attempting to collect and submit mail-in ballots fraudulently in a coordinated effort to sway local elections.

28. 2002 - Louisiana (Widespread Vote Buying)

• Political operatives engaged in systematic vote buying, leading to convictions and additional oversight for future elections.

29. 2004 - Alabama (Absentee Ballot Tampering)

• Officials were found guilty of altering absentee ballots to secure desired outcomes in local elections, leading to increased scrutiny on absentee ballot handling.

30. 2006 - Tennessee (Senate Race Tampering Allegations)

• Allegations of election tampering through voter intimidation and ballot handling irregularities prompted federal oversight in the election.

31. 2020 - Michigan (Miscount Allegations)

• Discrepancies in ballot counting led to legal challenges and a review by election authorities to ensure integrity in the counting process.

32. 1986 - Kentucky (Vote-Buying Operation)

• In a significant case of election tampering, federal authorities prosecuted individuals involved in vote-buying schemes intended to influence state and local elections.

33. 1994 - Pennsylvania (Absentee Ballot Tampering)

• A coordinated effort to manipulate absentee ballots led to a court-ordered rerun of a local election, underscoring vulnerabilities in the absentee voting process.

34. 1989 - Texas (Ballot Box Stuffing)

• Officials were convicted for ballot box stuffing to sway local races, revealing corruption in election management.

35. 2022 - New York (Organized Ballot Harvesting)

• Ballot harvesting in specific districts led to scrutiny and investigation, with measures taken to restrict third-party handling of ballots.

36. 2004 - New York (School Board Election Fraud)

• Local officials in a school board election forged absentee ballots, leading to overturned election results and new policies.

37. 2008 - New Jersey (Mail-In Ballot Fraud Ring)

• A large-scale scheme involving fraudulent handling of mail-in ballots led to arrests and policy changes in mail-in ballot processing.

38. 2009 - Troy, New York (Absentee Ballot Forgery)

• Officials forged absentee ballots to influence a primary election, resulting in multiple convictions of public officials.

39. 1982 - Georgia (Voter Roll Manipulation)

• Officials improperly purged eligible voters from rolls, requiring federal intervention to restore integrity to the voting process.

40. 1992 - South Carolina (Absentee Ballot Manipulation)

• An organized scheme involved tampering with absentee ballots in a local election, leading to increased absentee ballot scrutiny.

41. 2016 - Virginia (Voter List Manipulation Allegations)

• Large-scale duplicate registrations across states led to an organized investigation and new policies on voter roll accuracy.

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this was about the same time he was violating environmental protection laws by bringing home whale heads and such …

You are no doubt well aware that these laws are to facilitate terminating unviable pregnancies where the baby is already dead or not gonig to live. But ye lie and misrepresent continuously so I wont expect you to acknowledge that at all