"Green" policies are destroying this country

Have you read the article? They want signoff on a strategy

The Green Party wants the Cabinet to sign off on a strategy – just before the general election is called – to reduce traffic congestion by hitting road users with new taxes.

There's already been months and months of work gone into it

I don't think the green party will be out of government. I think it will be FF/FG again with a minor third party. My money is on the greens again, or perhaps Independent Ireland but they may be too flaky to depend on

I didn’t say I voted for them last time

There are things happening such as the M4 bus corridor and new road layouts in Dublin City centre to prioritise public transport which certainly are or will help the movement of people - but all too often I’ve seen tax this tax that as an “idea”- it not an idea it’s a punishment - some people can’t afford a new EV or indeed a second hand EV - house prices high mortgage interest currently high rents high childcare costs high goods high - there’s no release valve there- if goods were cheap or interest rates lower etc there might be some justification for a tax but right now many are pinned to their collar

Can you enlighten us on what policies the Greens have implemented that would have prevented the flooding in Valencia.

Who knows?

But these 16 climate experts know how much of a crisis there is now.

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-flash-floods-in-south-eastern-spain/

Should we ignore their views and expertise because there were also poor planning issues 70 years ago?

From the by now usual lazy media coverage that attempts to relate any adverse weather event to climate change it is easy to understand why you and others could be lead to believe that this is Spain`s worst weather event in terms of deaths.

Flash flooding in Spain is not a new phenomenon. They have been occuring for centuries. Had the media not been so lazy/pushing the climate change narrative i do not see how they could not know that in living memory in 1962 200mm of rainfall in 2 hours in Catalonia was responsible for flash flooding that killed over 800 people.

The focus on the need to recognize the issue.

How about starting with that instead of wanting the greens, and greens alone to deliver an entirely proven and costed effective solution before grudgingly accepting there might be a need for action.

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize you had been there specifically to carry out a full environment, design and impact suitability study.

Who commissioned the work, or was it self funded?

Did you publish or present your report yet? Can you give us a link to view it, even if it's still in the draft stage.

I'm sure you're not talking about going there on holiday and just having a look around and having the odd conversation with someone about their property.

This is criminal to suggest that because there are areas which experience floods, that the frequency and intensity of those floods increasing cannot be looked at and assessed as problematic. If an overweight person decides to change their diet to McDonalds only, you don't ignore that issue because they were fat anyway.

If you are talking about recognising the issues, then perhaps a good place to start would be to recognise that much of this media coverage on climate change is not even factual. It is agenda driven.

Flash floods in Spain are not a new phenomenon due to climate change. They have been occuring in Spain for centuries, and despite the efforts to portray the latest as being responsible for Spain`s largest ever weather related death, it isn`t. Over 800 died due to a flash flood in Catalonia in 1962 when 200mm 0f rain fell in a 2 hour period. Do you not find it strange that none of those media sources did not even mention a much more deadly similar weather related event that occured within living memory ?

I would be delighted to see this proven and costed effective solution from green`s. As would many others here I imagine who have been asking for just that for the green`s solution on electricity generation alone.

How about these for a few practical solutions, don't build on a flood plain, dredge the rivers, erect flood defenses. Might be more beneficial than erecting wind turbines in the Atlantic and taxing everything.

i didn't see any gushing headlines saying the floods were from climate change, who was doing this? i saw a couple of articles mention the floods and climate change in the guardian, but you'd always expect that from them.

why do you think there's some conspiracy to push the idea of climate change in the media, what's in it for them?

Hate seeing crap like this regardless of personal opinion on O'Gorman

If you are talking about recognising the issues, then perhaps a good place to start would be to recognise that much of this media coverage on climate change is not even factual. It is agenda driven.

To backup your point, RTE had an academic spoofer on Morning Ireland during the week parroting the catastrophic anthropogenic global warming narrative. This time from University of Galway. Of course, the report is registration required, thus not many have read said Lancet report (apparently written by written by 122 authors across 57 academic institutions and UN agencies and as you will see from the transcript below, the RTE presenter did not discuss it's findings, just the usual noise. The more authors on a paper, the less likely it is to be true. 100+ means you can dismiss this as BS. Without reading the first word. Back in 2017, Christiana Figueres joined the Lancet countdown, that tells you this is a political document. Figueres is a former executive secretary of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC). She has heavy connections with AGW finance and was involved in carbon trading before the UN job, but was running the process at previous COP’s as chair of panels examining further financial commitments by developed nations. She was Senior Adviser to C-Quest Capital, a carbon finance company focusing on programmatic CDM investments. She was a colleague of Lord Nicolas Stern at a trading advisory company called the Carbon Ratings Agency. She is well known in global financial circles. Follow the money . . .


Source: Climate change to cause shorter life expectancy and malnutrition.

[Morning Ireland Presenter]: And it's a dismal picture. More rain, more extreme weather, impacts of agriculture, the construction sector, public transportation, and consequences for health and life expectancy. All of these the real life consequences of climate change. It's already delivered 50 days of health threatening temperatures around the work last year and extreme drought has affected 48% of the global land area. These stark findings are set out in the Lancet countdown report on health and climate change. It's time for governments they say to stop paying lip service and stop fuelling the fire of this growing crisis. Karyn Morrisey is professor of environment and marine economics at the university of Galway, and she's one of the authors of this report. Professor Morrisey, Good morning.

[Karyn Morrisey] Good morning.

[MIP] And we're going to be talking later in the program about torrential rain and flash floods in South-Eastern Spain that is being reported this morning to have left 13 people dead. Is this another real life example of what this report is talking about?

[KM] Completely. Ah, The flash flooding is a result of the incredible drought that we saw throughout the Summer. So, the ground is incredibly, incredibly dry, so we have this paradox, where we need the rain, but the rain, when it comes, it's absolutely useless to us, because it's just runoff. So, ahm, what we can expect, particularly in Southern Europe, so a lot more of these flash floods due to drought. Unfortunately what we are going to see, in Ireland is a lot more floods in general, but, floods because the land is so saturated

[MIP] And that heavy rain and flooding in Ireland that you say is still to come. Will have a profound impact on agriculture and a knock on effect on food security and on health.

[KM] This is my main concern, actually, am, is that, not just because Irish farmers are going to be impacted. Of course we do want to support Irish farming, but our, am, our food chain is completely global, so, the fact that this is a global crisis, means that, if, when Irish farming is going to be impacted, it doesn't mean that we can source from other areas. So within our lifetime we are going to see major food insecurity. This isn't about not having access to our fancy aubergines and courgettes. This is about not having access to the nutrients we require to be healthy.

[MIP] And you say withing our lifetime. How do we stop it, can we stop it? We have plans, we have legislation. We have targets. What's the more that can be done?

[KM] Yeah, Oh gosh. We need action, come on, heh, {deep breath}, This is, we have paid enough lip service to this, but, I do want to make this, actually, very, very clear. I'm involved in this report because I'm still optimistic. We are now living with climate change, there is no doubt about that, however, we can mitigate the worst of it. We need governments to, ahm, ahm, national, at the international level, to really start to, ahm, put, ahm, climate change and the impact of climate change on our economies, on our health, at the center stage.

[MIP] And as I started talking to you, we were talking about 13 dead in Spain.

[KM] I saw that.

[MIP] We are now taking about 51 dead in Eastern Spain flash floods.

[KM] Yes, and this is it, and, this is. . . I say to people. Ok, this isn't Bangladesh. We are not going to see people, thousands of people die due to flash floodings, but, actually we will see people in Europe die because of this and this is because inexplicable, like we would have thought that we would have built our economies, our infrastructure past the point of something like flooding, but we are not, we are not immune.

[MIP] We keep being told time is running out, what time is left?

[KM] It's . . Time has run out on stopping climate change. We are now living with climate change, the question now is how much we can get done to ensure that our children and our grandchildren are not going to suffer, ahm, malnutrition, food insecurity, huge livelihood uncertainty because for example, you know, you just can't work in the extreme weather, or, both hot and cold, every part of our life is going to be impacted.

[MIP] Stark warnings this morning Karyn Morrisey.

[KM] Yes, unfortunately.

[MIP] Thank you very much indeed for joining us. That's professor Karen Morrisey.