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A global recession is on the horizon - please read OP for mod warning

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Speaking of the car industry. What a disaster

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,970 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Could almost be The Onion

    "Shock as no sign of global recession despite best efforts to make one happen by cherry-picking bad economic news and posting it on local forums"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,970 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Eurozone growth has beaten forecasts (with us being the highest) and Germany has avoided recession.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,644 ✭✭✭yagan


    Interesting that the gold price has doubled in the last 12 months. It might not have anything to do with a recession but it is odd as volume traded hasn't moved much in the same time, just more USD chasing it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    BYD considering moving it's EU headquarters to Hungary and China is telling automakers not to make large investments in the countries who voted to add tariffs on EV's. Sounds like France and Italy's hopes for Chinese automakers setting up there have boomeranged back on them.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,644 ✭✭✭yagan


    Yeah, I really don't understand why Ireland voted for the tariffs on cars when we don't make cars.

    It will affect our agri exports to China so I can imagine a quick about-face once that sinks in.

    Australian wine exporters got slapped with triple tariffs when the Aussies were pursuing the covid lab conspiracy, now they've kissed and made up and relations are reset because the Aussies were reminded that China is their number 1 export market.

    Now the Chinese car makers use the Aussie market like a test market for the rest of the western economies. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with a secondhand ev market from Australia like we have with ice cars from Japan.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    May as well post this. It certainly would end up here if they were cutting jobs

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2024/1101/1478470-microsoft-to-add-550-new-irish-engineering-and-rd-roles/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,727 ✭✭✭893bet


    that will further push up house prices and affordability! Will tip us over the edge to recession I bet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,955 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,644 ✭✭✭yagan


    I just did a quick search for "microsoft jobs Ireland" in the date range of 2005-2023 and annual announcements of either new jobs or job cuts seems the norm. In 2023 they were cutting jobs.

    It's more like a standard recruitment buzz announcement really, but with this years buzzword AI added into the standard press release.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Up $487 billion in October

    debt.jpg

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,329 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭Timing belt


    the number of times he has called a recession or the pay for promoting Putin….only joking I assume it’s US Debt



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 967 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    The chat in my circle yesterday was very negative arising from Trump's victory and the potential negative consequences for the Irish economy. One person talking about cancelling an expensive house extension he has planned. Others in the group expressing significant fears. Possibly an isolated reaction but it will be interesting to see what evolves.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 967 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    Specifically, that many multinationals would close down their Irish operations completely or partially.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    despite the billions of funding already invested here…

    We will be doomed if they do that, we are so reliant on these foreign investments.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Then they are fools tbh. Cancelling a house extension over that is one of the more ridiculous things I've ever heard. It is not going to happen (quite obviously they still need a European presence) and even in some bizzaro world it was going to happen it wouldn't happen for quite a long time. You don't shut down such massive operations and repatriate them overnight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,536 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    You are jumping the gun,the post is vague, obviously specific industries will be affected, calling them fools without getting the relevant information doesn't reflect well on you.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Someone cancelling their house extension cause they think American multinationals will pull out of Ireland due to the Trump presidency is ridiculous catastrophising. I would love to know by what mechanism they think this will happen. The only actual likely outcome of a reduction in US corporation tax is that these companies stop offshoring profits and repatriate it instead. IT is absolutely not going to cause massive international companies to start shutting regional HQs.

    I would have had more sympathy for the position if they were worried about a potential trade war having an inflationary impact.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,536 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    But it's not even the position of the poster,it vague at best, specific industries will affected as I said but but the post is basically pub talk,it shouldn't be replied to, unless there's more detail,yet I have now two posts on it so this will be my last,, giving it oxygen only feeds it.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    people are beginning to lose the run of themselves with Trump's re-election. Going from his previous term, he's not going to do anything much but talk about himself and play golf for next 4 years..more of the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    It should be more hilarious this time, there are no grown ups in the room. I just wonder how long it will be before he throws Musk under the bus, and who gets arrested.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,644 ✭✭✭yagan


    I think it feels catastrophic if you believe like Trump that the US is the world economy.

    I can imagine all those Irish who've acquired an internet US accent are either feeling devastated or embullient now.

    For me I think he's just the more crude and blunt representation of the US exceptionalism that always been there in my lifetime



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭Madeleine Birchfield


    If a global recession is soon approaching, then whoever wins the elections on 29 November (looking like another FF/FG coalition) will end up getting all the blame for the terrible recessionary economy and becoming very unpopular with the general public.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,955 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ah ffg will end up in trouble anyway, as theres gonna be very little movement in relation to critical issues such as housing, as the ffg plan is never gonna work, so we ll experience a continual rise of the extremes, and it ll be surprising the amount of people that buy into it, and it ll be very very messy, thankfully those extremes have little or no chance of getting into government here, but the opposition is gonna get very messy….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,329 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Yep Trump is going to play golf and talk some shite. I have no fear of him.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,955 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    an administration is so much more than the person themselves, and the trump one is filling with all sorts of questionables, if they go full tilt tarrifs, theres gonna be problems, this will be inflationary, and would probably eventually result in an american recession, so….

    …and it looks like theres gonna be a fed fight to, so thats a bit sketchy to say the least…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    That's cause FFG put all their eggs in the MNC and property prices pumping basket.

    MNCs are an amazing windfall for Ireland, but taking up too much of a chunk of the economy and pretty much deciding politics in this country. We are tied to the US.

    And people are not going to vote for lower property prices, even if most people would not be affected by that. And even when higher prices are indirectly costing them more ... causing a flight from public services here, stopping people taking risks starting their own businesses and means their kids can't find somewhere to buy or rent ...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,329 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    He has 18 months to two years to have any effect. Mid terms in 2 years will swing things again. Lame duck presidency after that.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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