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Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,408 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Nonsense from start to finish. When challenged your claims become larger and yet even more disconnected from logic, evidence and reality.

    You arent even trying to defend your original attack on Harris, definitive proof it was without foundation and without merit.

    Utterly self discrediting of any and every claim made on such basis.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    So a total conspiracy theory. Said without evidence dismissed without evidence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    I don't remember that.

    I remember people having to defend her a lot.

    Like, of course she's not going to give an ad hoc interview. She needs time to train/study/finalise policies etc.

    Trump has been campaigning for 4 years (arguably 9, tbh)

    She hasn't been the figurehead of a campaign since she ran for Senate since 2017.

    Running for President isn't like flipping a light switch, y'know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    ”recollections may vary” as they say - it would be “bickering” if I said more



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “I don't remember that.”

    As I said recollections vary - I’ve no interest in going backwards and getting involved in retro conversations - result is less than a weeks time - I’m only focused on that now -



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Nope - another falsehood you’ve posted against me this evening - I’ve no intention of playing this game thanks



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Remember a few weeks ago when Trump supporters were completing about how using the phrase "putting someone in the crosshairs" was unacceptable and caused the assassination attempts on Trump.

    Weird how talking about your political enemy being put to a firing squad while also talking about purges and enemies within doesn't seem to be an issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    How is it a falsehood? You literally claimed the media is engaged in some “landslide agreement” that is pro Kamala Harris. That is literally a conspiracy theory, and one which you have no evidence for. 🤷🏻‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Biden, and the Bullseye/Crosshairs, back in July. Yahtzee.

    There was total outrage about it from the same people defending Trump wanting Liz Cheney shot by 9 riflemen



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,408 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    If you have no interest in "going backwards", why on earth then would you make declarations about the view of Harris by "pretty much everyone on this forum throughout her early days as candidate".

    Those are direct quotes from your posts, completely contradicting each other.

    Those posts simply cannot be reconciled with each other in any sort of coherent or credible manner.

    You only have no interest apparently only since your baseless claims were challenged and you could provide nothing whatsover to support them.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    The current group have a hell lot more blood on their hands than Trump ever had. Parading Cheney around.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,276 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    @Overheal and @Oscar_Madison - give it a rest. Put each other on ignore or debate the topic in a civil manner - cutting you both a break here and deleting both your outbursts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,972 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Any of the trump supporters here want to try and condone this ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    There is a sizable group of swing voters who don't usually engage with politics and only pay attention in the final week or two of the election to make their decision. I cannot see how Trump could possibly win over most of that group just based on the last two weeks alone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Ya see, this is what you get when you pretty much racially denigrate every ethnic minority in America at a live event encouraging nearly 50% of the population to vote for you -

    it’s likely not an “official” Republican “stunt”- - but I don’t have access to the origins of who put it together -

    but it’s absolutely no different to what we watched last Sunday -and some eejit decided it would be “a great laugh” to do this - totally oblivious to not only the racist connotations but also the gender connotations attached - the Republicans and Trump have gone pretty much as far as this in what they’ve said - but a picture paints 1000 words as they say - it’s very possible they’ll lose the election on this video alone - that’s how close this election is



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭reclose


    I won’t even bother giving some examples of the Trump supporters but the Harris supporters are now saying Trump is senile but no one was allowed say that about Biden a few months ago.
    Biden called trump supporters garbage and the excuses being made for him are ridiculous.
    He fucked up and said Trump supporters were garbage. Not ideal for a president to say. Just accept he fucked up.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Trump swayed for 39 minutes to various songs at a rally that went totally off the rails in a small hot venue where others fainted and at the end of a long day of campaigning.

    I think the reactions to it have been quite understandable, including from the medical community.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭reclose


    Harris supporters on this thread have been saying he’s senile a few weeks now, long before what you’ve mentioned.
    I’ve no problem with Harris supporters having that opinion but you have to accept it’s hypocritical if you were against it being said about Biden.
    Both Biden and Trump had moments were you’d question their health. Both are too old to be president in my opinion.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Again complete fiction here. Either as a result of not reading the thread or just revising history.

    Trump called Democrat voters garbage and scum. Among a vast many other things he's said about a bunch of people. For example falsely accusing immigrants of eating pets.

    Even if we accept Biden calling all Trump supporters trash (he didn't), that doesn't really compare to all of the **** Trump has said and done. So when Trump supporters act offended at Bidens statement, while completely ignoring and not even acknowledging the things Trump says, the criticism is not valid and comes across as hypocritical.

    Likewise with their expertise in diagnosing Bidens mental state seems to have dried up in regards to Trumps much much worse displays of mental decline.

    Sorry man, but the "both sides" thing is long played out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    gosh I guess Joe Biden should drop out of this race. /s

    If you have no problem with their opinion, I don’t know why you’re dragging it back up.

    before the musical incident, Trump was also exhibited with a very peculiar and conspicuous slur/lisp Which again had many people rightfully concerned again, including the medical community.

    But getting to the thing you’re actually trying to argue about instead of these deflections to a few weeks ago or specific posters on the thread or whatever: yes Biden and the White House know that his words were very poorly thought out and executed. I even read a report that the White House stenographer complained that his comments were allegedly edited in the transcripts by WH staff which, in the Trump administration would have been any other Tuesday but for a normal administration, a pretty glaring piece of evidence that they knew it was damaging. I’m sure someone like James comer will come along when they’re back in session to make a giant stink about it, while someone like Jamie Raskin will come back at him with a long list of things that the trump administration edited out - not to mention the whole classified documents scandal, it would be silly of the GOP to generate too much fake outrage about the edit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,612 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I didn't jump to defend Posobiecs tweet, I replied to Snake's post which said

    "Now play the whole clip of what Trump was saying about Liz Cheney rather then dishonestly clipping it. Desperate stuff from the Democrats and the media"

    The full interview of what Trump said is available all over the internet, its not something unique to Posobiec.

    You insinuating that I was jumping to defend Posobiecs tweet is plainly dishonest.

    Anyway what was his tweet

    "Here is the Full Clip Trump is talking about Liz Cheney’s stance on war. He is discussing how elites will send our kids to war but never do themselves"

    I think thats a pretty accurate description btw, its not a rabid conspiracy thing.

    The video isnt edited.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,016 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Why isn't this discussed on every single page of this thread?

    Why is anyone engaging in a back and forth about Trump's policies or a stupid thing Biden said when we have a recording of a one hour phone call of Trump talking to the Georgia Secretary of State, asking him to manufacture extra non-existent votes so that Trump could win Georgia?

    Why is there any question about Trump's ability to be a custodian of the USA when he already tried to overthrow it one time when it didn't serve his wants? We know the answer. There's as much ambiguity about that as what would happen if you made Gary Glitter the principal of an all-girls boarding school.

    No Trump advocate or 'centrist' on this thread can defend it. Put it to them with some links and a couple of videos, they run away. Every time.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Do you believe that Jack Posobiec is a grifter like Alex Jones?

    Did you know who he was before replying to that post?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭reclose


    I think it’s you who can’t see through your own bias.
    I’ve been reading this thread for months.

    Are you ok with Trump being called senile? Are you ok with Biden being called senile?
    Or is one ok to say and the other is not?


    I read and watched Biden speech and he did say Trump supporters are garbage. I’ll go back to check again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,612 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    No its utterly reprehensible but its also an isolated case in a country of 350m people.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    Trump doing 4 rallies on Monday, what a machine



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