Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

It's hardly an unfounded conspiracy theory, it's literally how betting odds work.

You are making alot of sweeping and false statements.

Well for one, most of the arguments coming from Trump supporters like yourself are either false, ridiculous or so vapid, you abandon them after a few posts.

Thats your opinion, not fact.

Most of your information comes from things like the twitter feed you stole from. Sources that source bullshit from conspiracy nuts like Alex Jones

No it doesn't.

In the post above most of the points I made are easily backed up by polls and stats I have previously linked to. They are by respected bodies not some homemade Twitter account as you are disingenuously trying to insinuate.

They are not false, ridiculous or vapid despite your protestations.

Alex Jones is a grifter, I have no time for him, you are trying to misrepresent me by saying I follow him.

Alex Jones is a grifter, I have no time for him, you are trying to misrepresent me by saying I follow him.

The twitter accounts you plagarise like and follow him though so its no surprise that you regurgitate his talking points on here. You might not even be aware of it.

I’ve no idea if they are or are not concerned- you have said they’re concerned - some newspapers have said they’re concerned - after that I’ve no idea if they are or aren’t - and I really don’t care either - because they’ll simply attack and react to anything brought out by the Democrat side - so no one actually knows are they just mocking or do they actually have a concern that whatever the issue is will impact them at the voting booth.

While I haven’t seen the video I’ve seen a commentary of it - personally given the audience you’re trying to attract which in the main are bible bashers, I’m not convinced that encouraging people to lie to their partners is the cleverest tactic the Democrats have come up with - and actually it’s only reinforcing their description of Harris as “Satan” 😀

Bookies will always seek to lay off a chunk of that Trump money elsewhere. The house always wins.

edit - Not Trump's casino though.

Joking aside I get that and for the record I’m totally against partner coercive control in any aspect of the relationship .

And if that’s a “thing” - as in a widespread thing, then fair enough, the issue does need highlighting - I just don’t know to what extent control over who you vote for is an actual issue and would be happy to see some statistics on this if available.

On the “joking” side though, asking conservative religious voters to “lie” to their uncontrolling partners is just a bit ironic - there’s definitely humour there

The UK Guardian (caveat : extremely pro-Harris) has an interesting article about Mormans/LatterDaySaints in Arizona and the Harris campaigns efforts with them. They make up 6% of the states population, and are generally reliably Republican. Hilary Clinton got 9% vote share, Biden 18% (but 50% among under 40s) and the Harris campaign is targeting them.

Mormons were once reliably Republican – but they could tip Arizona Harris’s way | US elections 2024 | The Guardian

Possibly just a copium/feelgood article for Harris supporters, but good to see that the massive campaign funds are being used at this non-obvious low-level, rather than just expensive TV ads.

Not sure if statistics are or even could be available, but given that women's rights with particular regard to abortion rights and healthcare are a huge factor in this election, and that a higher percentage of men support Trump than women, it's certainly likely to be happening to some degree. Not widespread, but enough.

Even if it's not as much as coercive control, the ad still applies to those who just might feel socially awkward about admitting who they're voting for. Even here in Ireland you can be stuck talking to a bunch of supporters of one party and just imply that you also vote for them even if you don't.

The more divisive politics becomes, the more people might just say they voted in one way to avoid having to defend or explain yourself, why you voted for them, whataboutery etc.

That's all I took from the ad. In the voting booth, your vote is your vote, and you vote whatever way you want. Outside the booth, you're free to pretend otherwise.

Maybe an “independent” production then might have been the way to go here - neither democrat nor republican- just focus on the message that the only person that matters is you and that your vote and privacy in the polling booth is sacrosanct? Otherwise it’s just treated as a political football in a very nasty campaign of other footballs

Absolutely! Of course that's what is being said.

It is an absolutely the wildest of stretches to bring it around to it encouraging wives to lie to their husbands.

Dear god....

Given the fact a billionaire is running a daily illegal million dollar lottery if you vote Trump then I'd say it's pretty plausible that he or another billionaire is happy to drop large bets. Also worth noting, that such large bets have never happened in previous elections. So I'd say it's perfectly fair to question that individual's motivation.