Ireland's Refugee Policy cont. Please read OP before posting

I'm in the same boat, I dont see the change this country desperately needs coming BUT I cannot wait to see the feckers coming to my door looking for a vote and I'll be asking them how does it feel like creating a new industry in this country, an industry that has devastated our hotel/tourism sector and local communities. An industry that that has created/enriched Ireland oligarchs while they put their foot on the neck of the local communities.

Europe and particularly Ireland need to learn from our Swedish neighbors.

Think about it, Sweden was once one of the safest countries in Europe but look at it now. This is what mass immigration does to a country and good old Ireland is following suit

A fascinating read

It's so damn scary what's down the line for us

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People from the USA have claimed asylum in Ireland, yes.

Bertie knows, they all know, it's a top issue

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/bertie-ahern-predicts-immigration-to-be-a-big-issue-in-the-general-election-1689634.html

tying up Gardai resources when inevitable and justifiable protests occur.

Neither inevitable or justifiable in the majority of people's opinions.

Gardai do not need to police peaceful protests, unfortunately they have to attend to lawbreakers. It's ironic that one of the complaints about AS is the waste of police time, when the only people who are wasting Garda time are not AS.

Their wont be many of the current government knocking and having a chat.

They know they are home and hosed and they are not stupid and know how the majority of the country feels.

You will get leaflets in the letterbox during the daytime and they will scamper away.

They probably won't even do it themselves and get others to post them.

Ha just to edit that I heard leaflets coming through the letter box just after lunch yesterday.

I was throwing them out and hour ago and looking through the junk ads and see a leaflet from our local FG TD.

I was working from home yesterday and their wasn't a knock on the door.

I remember years ago when they would canvass in the evenings and discuss their policies.

I said it after the RTE bailout, if VM contuine to feel hard done by, don't be surprised to see them making an editorial decision to push back against government ministers and policy.

They will have to boil "the frog on this one " as the Establishment went so far down the pro immigration road they cannot quickly do an about turn as even they would blush at that.Fly a few kites here and there ala Bertie and gradually move to a position of " Mistakes were made ,we are where we are and lets look forward not back",the Ukrainian influk with some justification will be used as the reason for the eye off the ball elsewhere .We cannot expect any action on those that are here,best to hope for is we catch up on what our European counterparts are now introducing and show some vigour in holding the line on implementation.We need to address the appeal process so its not used as a brake on all solutions,and requesting folk not entitled to stay needs to move to forcible removal ,All reparition of families needs to be suspended,and any arrivals from UK sent back to Belfast on the train.

The last time I was in Stockholm was at the hight of the refugee crisis, when train loads of asylum seekers were arriving at the central station daily.

You know what shocked me the most about Stockholm (apart from the cost of everything)? I was there for a couple of days doing the touristy thing and I could count on my left hand the number of hijabs or minorities I encountered. You'd see more minorities if you stood around on Henry St for 5 minutes than I saw in two days in the center of Stockholm. It's pretty easy to live in a 'refugees welcome' bubble when they are clearly shuffled out of sight and thus out of mind of the well to do.

I don't know what it's like now of course, that was nearly a decade ago, but here, every town and small village is impacted by mass migration and people have just had enough of it. If you walk down Henry St or any part of the north inner city today, it's pretty easy to get the distinct feeling that you are the minority in the city.

If you've been reading the news, there's been hundreds of incidents at AS centres tying up lots of Garda resources especially in rural areas that have no business hosting young lads with nothing to do all day.

Nobody in their right mind would want a local hotel closed down to make way for an AS centre. Thousands of jobs in shops and Restaurants have gone as tourists have nowhere to stay in many small towns.

All of this upheaval is for what exactly? Not one single benefit to Ireland will come from all this splurging.

There are not hundreds of incidents. There are incidents, same as there are incidents everywhere in the country. There is nothing disproportionate. Incidents happen everywhere.

Decisions are made by the government, not activists on social media. It’s true that more people moving into a town can stretch resources, but that’s really an issue with how well the government plans and funds things, not some hidden agenda to create chaos. Also, the far right are not honest about what they are. They lie about everything and use the tactic of misinformation because it doesn't matter to them whats actually true and we've seen that time and time again. The ends justify the means to them. As soon as a crime is committed by someone who isn't what the far rights idea of "Irish" is, they go on racist rants, spreading misinformation and blaming all migrants, trying their best to cause a riot situation which endangers the public. A crime doesn't even have to be committed, they'll make it up themselves. Countless examples of them telling people to get out on the street and do something. Fake stories about migrants committing an attack and trying to get the migrants beaten up or whip up fear as we saw with fake child abduction stories and fake rapes. A father at a playground was targeted when he was simply taking his child to a playground. The far right all got behind the obviously fake story. This will be all stamped out in time with hate speech laws obviously, which is why they are terrified of those laws coming in. The far right are a stain on society and are overrepresented online, as we saw when most of this forum was in turmoil after achieving 0.42% of the vote.

"temporary" is the new permanent.

When Mosney was first used to host AS it was presented as "temporary"

Lies.

When they started acquisition of hotels for this racket it was touted as "temporary'

Lies.

When Ukrainians started filing in getting undreamed of benefits it was touted as "temporary"

More Lies.

Here's something they should temporarily do.

Temporarily suspend the right to asylum.

Poland is doing this by saying Putin is sending them in.

So please do this "temporarily" Muppets in government.

Yep. I am saying that. I'm also saying that UK citizens don't need a passport to gain entry to Ireland either.

Irish citizens do not need a passport to enter Britain either.

As always when a pro immigration supporter contributes to this discussion ,"far right " will be mentioned within the first few sentences.We have moved beyond this being an issue for the far right,this is a centrist ,middle of road ,ordinary person on the street issue so please lets park the "Far right " label as its out of date.