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Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,420 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Well he changed to Republican, the point remains though the only president to have been born and raised in California, in fact the West Coast at all was Nixon.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,572 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Hey, if a party is running a pretty weird and creepy candidate then it's fair game to call him such. The fake tan just adds to the weird...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,578 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    If Trump wins it's up to Kamala to certify the results, like it was Pence's job. That's gotta sting a little, considering she's the one running against Trump. I wonder will she contest the results…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Nermal




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,626 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    No.

    It makes him look even weaker than he did before. If you're not a diehard Trump supporter, this would almost be funny if it weren't for the fact that he might have access to nuclear weapons this time next month.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭pad406


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    I knew that expression looked familiar 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Unlikely, as she is a serious politician.

    She would also attend the new president's inauguration, as she is not a spoiled child.

    Also unlikely she will tweet out calling Tim Walz a coward.

    Or indeed rile up a mob and get them to attack the capitol.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Also didn't he call Chris Christie a fat slob?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,032 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "Democrats seem a bit salty about it because it wasn't them that thought of it.

    If Kamala did it they'd be over the moon. Yes, it's just a stunt but it's outside the box thinking that gets noticed.

    That's an awful lot of assumptions on your part in an effort to prove a point.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    I know someone who was involved in one of the previous Borat films and the setup of Gulianni. When the Four Seasons incident happened we were all convinced that they were responsible for it... But no the Trump teams are that stupid to do these things to themselves.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,558 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Can't speak for others but I'd prefer a campaign that doesn't have to rely on "stunts". Unfortunately that's where political discourse has been dragged down to; Trump running away from actual debates to pretend to work at McDonalds and be a garbage man, and not doing interviews where he might be asked tough questions and instead sit with Theo Von and Joe Rogan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,422 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    And when Trump pulls these stunts, as part of his campaign, and looks ridiculous in the process because of his get up and conduct, that becomes fair game to be called out.
    It's not like e.g. lambasting Trump over an unflattering photo of him in a private moment.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    He's a billionaire with lovely houses and hotels. Would you like to be a billionaire with hotels, big houses, and fancy cars?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The world is a lot more violent now. That's the problem. Millions have walked across the wide open border.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yes. It's the same on this thread and in modern Ireland in general. No opposition of any kind, hotels threatened to cancel meetings, posters torn down, etc. They're dictatorships that masquerade as democracies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,026 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Is it immigration now the subject that you'll tie up a few pages spouting easily refutable bull for today? It's your track record



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The constitution is effectively unamendable through normal channels so in order to drive change the only way to do it is a Supreme Court judgement.

    This isn't true. Article V. And I mean, we nearly had the Equal Rights Amendment passed, but there was a deadline baked into the amendment language to ratify, which was a choice.

    Stacking of the courts is certainly an issue but not an insurmountable one. The means by which to remove them exist and if Democrats had enough control of Congress I feel they would have already for instance, impeached Clarence Thomas. As for the court itself, they can keep writing themselves into corners with some of their clearly partisan rulings lately but it will eventually come to a head.

    The other side are half the population

    Also a popular misconception but no, they aren't. About 1 in 4 Americans are Republicans. Gerrymandering, and strategic control over 'land' like North and South Dakota etc. merely give them a very outsized level of control in Congress. 31% are Democrats and 40+ % are Independents.

    The US has been deadlocked politically before, I don't think it means the experiment was a failure before.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Just cause you and your fellow cultists call everything you don't like 'bull' doesn't make it so.

    Mod Edit: Warning Issued for uncivil posting - one day forum ban applied

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭Shelga


    This is what I do not understand about Trump supporters. Wanting to upset the establishment, I get. Wanting someone who “tells it like it is”, I get. Wanting someone who cuts through all the bullshit that politicians usually come out with, when living standards have been declining for decades, I get.

    Hell, someone giving secret racists a chance to embrace their worst instincts, I get.

    What I don’t get is how people can respect a man who is so thin-skinned, pathetically obsessed with his enemies, and self-pitying. I thought Americans pride themselves on getting on with things. Trump is so laughably infantile and pitiful, I don’t know how they overlook that aspect of his character, again and again, I really don’t.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    But why would Trump waste his time being interviewed (attacked) by people who hate him? It would be a complete waste of time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭pad406




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,817 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Look ridiculous to us European sophisticates. But going by what's worked for him before I'd say there's a good chance these stunts are hitting the spot with the white working class audience they're aimed at…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,422 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I was being more specific, not just that it was something of a photo op \ stunt but that Trump specifically looked ridiculous in executing this particular one - and that because that was on the campaign trail, it is fair game for comment.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Theres been so many posts since I was last in, but have people realised the why Trump was with the garbage van?

    It's a Boris "Biscuit tin" bus situation again.

    Remember when Boris did that interview and he had the bizarre answer that his hobby is making busses from biscuit tins? Which every network picked up on and reported, so when you Googled Boris and Bus, the old picture of Boris, "instead of sending 350million to the EU, we'll spend it on the NHS instead!", all that came up on the search was his bizarre claim that he makes busses from biscuit tins.

    Exact same here. Exact same.

    Now when you Google Trump and Garbage, the MSG tally remarks have been knocked off the front page because of this stunt.

    It's just a game. Doing that stunt may have saved him a few thousand votes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,420 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    A hotel threatening something and someone tore down a poster = Dictatorship

    🤣



  • Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Every word of that is debatable. The only reason I would ever want any of Trumps properties is to flip it for cash.

    Bad taste writ large. Wealth and the obscene displays of it don't impress me at all.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,626 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    There's long been an anti-intellecutal streak there along with an unhealthy appetite for quick fixes and fantasies. Americans also seem to be incredibly deferential and keen to take the easy route. Add in Trump's charisma and racism and it makes sense that so many flock to him.

    He's ultimately the vector for their grievances. They don't care about making anything better, just hurting the people they despise be it Muslims, trans people, big city liberals, or whoever. As long as they get that, they'll fall in line.

    There's also the sunken cost bias. They've spent over a decade shilling for this man on social media, alienating moderates in real life and waving their flags, become worse versions of themselves in the process.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses


    I don't like members of the Republican party comparing Fauci to Mengele.. How's that for cult like behaviour.

    The amount of MAGA folk calling Harris a Marxist..but when asked what it means they don't have a fuckin clue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Exemplifying the MAGA problem with women, there was yet another polling incident, this time in Orangeburg, SC.

    A Trumper tried to vote with a political hat on and was refused by election workers (all women), because of course he was: it's against the law in edit: many states, to solicit within a polling place.

    So how does he respond? By physically attacking the election workers, calling at least one of them a "f*cking b*tch!"

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/you-fking-bitch-trump-fan-caught-on-tape-starting-fight-with-poll-workers-over-his-trump-hat/

    POLL WORKER: You’re not gonna be able to–.

    (CROSSTALK)

    TRUMP FAN: You **** bitch!

    CAMERA PERSON: Oh wow!

    (CROSSTALK)

    Sir, listen, don’t cuss at me–.

    TRUMP FAN: This is my motherfuckin’ right right here!

    POLL WORKER: (INAUDIBLE).

    TRUMP FAN: A’ight then shut the hell up and let me vote!

    POLL WORKER: We ain’t got nothing else to say! We cannot serve you! We’re gonna move on.

    TRUMP FAN: (THROWS HAT) There it is right there!

    POLL WORKER: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

    TRUMP FAN: (GABS POLL WORKER’S HANDS – SHE RECOILS).

    POLL WORKER: Don’t do that!

    CAMERA PERSON: My God. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.

    (TRUMP FAN ADVANCES — POLL WORKERS RESTRAIN TRUMP FAN).

    POLL WORKER: TAKE HIM OUTSIDE!

    He really brought this on himself. It's not uncommon for people to inadvertently go to vote with improper attire - heck I've done it, in 2016 I was told I couldn't wear a Bernie Sanders pin when I voted in the primary. But also I was a f*cking adult about it and took off the button, I didn't accost election workers and shout this is muh rights and scream obscenities at them. There's even a viral image going around this week of a MAGA voting woman who chose to take her shirt off and vote in her undergarments instead of go home and change when she was told she couldn't vote while breaking the law against political attire - not the choice I would have made, but to her credit, she didn't assault election workers just enforcing election law.

    SLED says it's investigating. Apparently they haven't found the man yet to arrest him.

    This comes at a poor time for the Trump campaign: Nikki Haley was just making the case the other night that the MSG rally was turning off women because of how overly male/machismo/bro-culture it was, including some really weird moments like Tucker Carlson calling for Daddy to come home and spank people etc.; it's not a good look that his supporters are engaged in violent misogyny. Just yesterday an 18 year old male was arrested after he waved a machete at 2 women showing support for Harris.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,558 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Being asked to explain his actions and/or policies does not equal being "attacked". It's practically the bare minimum that should be expected from a politican, never mind a President. Harris went on Fox News. Trump won't even go on Fox News unless it's one of the hosts who are favourable to him, like Hannity (an entertainment host, not a journalist) or Fox & Friends (I assume they won some lottery somewhere to get those jobs).

    Trump won't do interviews where he's actually challenged on details of his plans, and when he is he resorts to calling the interviewers nasty and biased. He's a pathetic worm (see, that's me attacking him).



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