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Dublin to Belfast

  • 04-09-2024 06:30PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭


    I note that passengers must use a bus between Newry and Belfast to complete a journey but it's all a bit vague as to when a full train service is due to resume. The Irish Rail website states "early autumn" which could mean anything up to December 1st! Does anyone have any idea when a full service resumes? I've also noticed it's not possible to buy a First Class ticket. Has this service stopped?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,378 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Yep their answer is "autumn" would recommend Dublin Express bus as alternative if going to Belfast from Dublin and vice versa, I hate all that changing malarkey.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,720 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    There is currently a bus replacement service while the final works for the new Belfast Grand Central Station are completed. They do not yet have a confirmed opening date, hence why Irish Rail still has "autumn" as the resumption date. I believe that Translink are just awaiting certification of the signalling at the new station and it's approach, so there should be confirmation of an opening date pretty soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,941 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Irish Rail journey planner have service resuming from Monday 7th October.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,123 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Grand Central is opening this Sunday, Sep 8 for buses only so presumably all major work is done and when the signalling is signed off it should be ready to open for trains as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,720 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    Sorry yes, should have specified - no current opening date for the rail elements. Bus services will indeed begin this Sunday, with the first departure at 5am.

    Hopefully the 7th October date bears true, but I'd take it with a pinch of salt until Irish Rail/Translink make an official announcement!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,305 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Still no confirmation from Translink as to when the station will be open. My earwigs in Norn Iron tell me that a sub contractor made a boo-boo and that it will take time to rectify fully. As a result the powers that be are not able to issue a safety certificate for loco hauled traffic and that there are no dates confirmable for Enterprise traffic into the new facility. It's unsure if there will even be a DMU service either but for now it remains unopened to railway traffic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    I heard at the weekend that Lanyon Place will be back for a short period while the sort out the railway issues at Grand Central.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 topics_talk


    Out of interest does anyone know what rolling stock will be used to increase the Enterprise frequency to hourly? There are currently 3 enterprise train sets and a handful of spare carriages. That could be turned into 4 slightly shorter trainsets with no spares although that doesn't sound ideal from a maintenance point of view. I think more than 4 would be needed for hourly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,941 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    They will use x2 ICR with first class sets and x1 NIR.

    Dublin-Belfast

    Mon-Sat

    05:50, 07:50, 11:50, 13:50, 17:50 - ICR

    06:50, 09:50, 10:50, 12:50, 15:50, 16:50, 18:50 - DD

    08:50, 14:50, 20:50 - NIR

    Sun

    13:50 - ICR

    08:50, 10:50, 12:50, 14:50, 16:50, 18:50, 20:50 - DD

    Belfast-Dublin

    Mon-Sat

    09:00, 11:00, 15:00, 17:00, 21:00 - ICR

    07:00, 08:00, 10:00, 13:00, 14:00, 16:00, 19:00 - DD

    06:00, 12:00, 18:00 - NIR

    Sun

    17:05 - ICR

    08;05, 10:05, 12:05, 14:05, 16:05, 18:05, 20:05 - DD



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 topics_talk


    Thank you, very detailed. Will these sets receive enterprise livery or just retain the IE and NIR liveries? Will the NIR unit have first class fitted or shall those service go without?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 topics_talk


    Out of interest why are the Enterprise trains currently terminating at Newry and passengers being bussed to Belfast? Can the train not continue to run to Lanyon Place until Grand Central is opened?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Trains run to Portadown

    Due to the nature of the road network (the railway line is indirect) its faster to transfer passengers at Newry to/from Belfast

    There is a triangular junction at Great Victoria Street/Grand Central. The signalling and track is being redone so its a no go area currently so no way to reach Lanyon Place unless you want to go long way around via Antrim



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    On it's website Translink has the following message: "Timetables and online purchases are currently only available up until 12 October 2024". Might be a new timetable after this date?



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hourly services due to start on Tuesday 29th October according to BBC NI.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3wd98d2n2o



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭D8 boy


    I've just booked a day trip to Belfast on Oct 15, travelling out on the 08:00 and back on the 18:00. When booking, no seat reservation was offered for either leg, and the booking confirmation says "Seat NA". Neither departure offers 1st class so I assume these are not worked by Enterprise DD sets. Does the lack of seat reservations mean these departures are operated by NIR 3000 sets?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    My understanding is that the changeover to the new Grand Central Station is happening this Sunday and services will be running through to Belfast again. With this finally happening, I think there are a lot of tweaks to happening on the booking system and confirm train sets etc.

    My guess is that the timetable resourcing people in Connolly are completely flat out sorting out the mess of the timetable, that some of these "less important" matters of seat allocations are taking a back foot.

    You will be completely fine on the 08:00 next Tuesday and will have plenty of space. The 18:00 will be busier, but still fine. Everyone will be in the same situation. This will be temporary while they bring in the new improved service.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It appears the article in question isn't correct. Currently no info on the Irish Rail or Translink websites as to when the hourly service will begin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Both websites are selling tickets for the hourly service from 29th Oct



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭OisinCooke


    Does anyone know what sets are booked to be DeDietrich worked…? Making a trip to Dundalk in a few days and I’d love a bit of real traction! Thanks lads :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,366 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    They are listed further up the thread.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭OisinCooke




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,702 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    public holiday monday Dublin-Belfast have a bus transfer from Connolly to Dundalk, then train to Belfast. Annoying!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,366 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    There is never a good time to carry out major engineering work.

    Unfortunately, sometimes they need longer possessions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57 ✭✭DrivingSouth


    I'm thinking of heading up to Belfast to see the new station.

    Would anyone have any knowledge of the routes or times the C3k and C4k DMUs operate, as I would like to try get a spin on both when I'm up there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,301 ✭✭✭trellheim


    Is there catering a la Enterprise on the IE sets ? or even a trolly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,366 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Full catering on all bar the C3K set



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,366 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    That’s not what I heard despite what the IE journey planner may say?

    Are you sure that is the case?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭Telecaster58


    Anyone travelled First Class on the Enterprise? Is it worth it?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭wijam


    I'd usually get first class as a solo-traveller and get the single seat so no one beside me as it gives more room and is comfortable. You have the table service for food, which is alright.

    You're paying double for a little bit more comfort for a 2 hour train journey. I'm heading up next month with a group of friends and went economy, which I don't mind either



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