Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

Think Harris will just get over the line but will be razor close. The fact it's razor close kinda says she's a pretty poor candidate. I honestly thought she'd win pretty comfortably. She had all the momentum after the debate. In the end I suspect those that support Harris are more likely to come out and vote than some of Trump's supporters are.

Bit of context on the Tony Hinchcliffe set from Jon Stewart

https://x.com/JohnnyWoodard/status/1851127881402855864#

When you view it in this context it's not all that bad although admittedly probably a bit risque for a political rally.The pearl clutching from all the commentators is hilarious though.There is also the context that there have been server issues with waste management in Puerto Rico over the past few years so that is where the trash reference comes from not implying that Puerto Ricans are trash like the media tried to claim.

And then you have Biden come out and say 50% of Americans are trash (100% seriously) and yet that is acceptable behaviour by the sitting president (not an insult comedian) according to people on here.

It's hilarious that the Democrats without a shred of self awareness continually say the other side are divisive and yet you've had a former presidential candidate (Hillary) calling people "deplorables" and the sitting president calling people "trash" but of course they don't contribute to the divisiveness in American in any way.

If the joke requires that level of context it’s a poorly crafted joke, and considering it was one of many that targeted minorities it certainly didn’t seem like he was having a go a Puerto Rico’s waste facility issues. And anyway, you know it’s bad as Trump has thrown him under the bus.

Biden did not say 50% of Americans are trash and putting 100% serious in brackets doesn’t change that. He said Trump supporters are garbage, and the full quote shows he meant Hinchcliffe which he later clarified. And anyway, he’s not running to be president. Harris has repeatedly called for unity.

MAGA lives off division and insults so it’s hilarious to see them desperate to clutch their pearls at any opportunity, regardless of what was actually said.

This is Charlie Kirk's hot take....

"Joe Biden is using dehumanizing language towards 80 million Americans, calling Trump supporters "garbage." This is how the worst atrocities of the 20th century begin again in 2024. They think you are garbage, therefore worthy of elimination."

My favourite reply was a quote / picture as follows;

Just to note again that naivety on here is a bit shocking

People thinking that a potential presidents moral compass or personality trump (pun intended) the issues is soooo 2016.

A off colour joke from a comedian will swing the election? It's just noise,people have made up their mind at this stage.The outrage actually plays into Trumps hand.

Cost of living/immigration are the two biggest issues (there are others but they're the biggest)

Trump is speaking to people about these and what he says more broadly aligns with what they (right or wrongly think)

Its a travesty but wholly unavoidable.

Lads,it's as simple as that.

I listened to a CNN correspondant interviewing undecideds this morning. Yes you read that right. Undecideds - this morning.

I thought how on earth could you be undecided today? If nothing that has been said or written about before now on either candidate has made up your mind for you, then no amount of people saying "Harris needs to do more interviews or talk polices more", or "Trump needs to detail his plans", is going to change things.

It is quite interesting to watch.

A classic study in how authoritarian populism can swing a democratic vote. I used to wonder about how the German people allowed Hitler to come to power. When I see the success of Trump in this election (and it doesn't matter if he doesn't get elected, he will come close at least), then I begin to understand better.

The fact it's razor close kinda says she's a pretty poor candidate.

Harris is the only candidate in recent memory who if they lose can still walk away with their head held high if they lose. I don't mean 'she's the real winner' or anything like that, but she has ran a very decent campaign. She's supremely qualified for the role. She's had no back track moments, no caught in headlights moments, no hanging Biden out to dry moments wither in pushing him to step down or referring to his policies, no giving the MAGA supporters a stick to beat her with, no viral moments of events from her past that she had to explain away. She accepted the nomination, looked immediately like she was ready for it, and built her exposure in a pretty consistent way without any 'she wasn't ready moments'.

And her opponent…. horrible rhetoric, rambling responses without an answer to the question he was asked, a VP partner candidate who told the public that he saw him as America's Hitler, 2 busloads of former administration officials who are screaming at people to not vote for him, convictions for fraud related to disclosure of the use of campaign funds related to earlier elections, voice recordings of him committing crimes around the last election, convictions for business fraud since the last election, held liable for slander of a woman he sexually assaulted, promising to use the military to attack his opponents as soon as he is in office, has felony charges for handling top secret documents inappropriately since he was removed from office, incited an insurrection after he lost the last election and is showing distinct signs of age and declining mental facilities.

All of these are facts, indisputable, and in plain view, and still a significant number of Americans want him as President. When that is the case, these people are not for turning, there is NOTHING Kamala could do to change the minds of these people because they have looked at all of the above and still stuck with him. America, (and other countries) has to figure out how to have real world conversations about real world issues because what we're seeing since the explosion of the internet, and social media, is not it.

If Trump loses in part because of the backlash from Sundays rally, it is 100% appropriate because it will have been him finally being the author of his own downfall. The entire tone of the rally, the various speakers, the extremely provocative language and tone, was all coordinated. If he loses, and it was because of that it is better nearly in some way because it will have been so entirely self-inflicted.

Cost of living/immigration are the two biggest issues (there are others but they're the biggest)

Trump is speaking to people about these and what he says more broadly aligns with what they (right or wrongly think)

Trump was asked, by a conservative supporter, what he would to help with healthcare costs. He spoke for 2.5 minutes and didn't given even a semblance of an idea of what could be conceived of as a policy.

This election is being fought on 'thoughts and feelings' last Sunday was an incredible demonstration of what those thoughts and feelings really are. They were closer to a fact than anything else we are getting in this election.

'If you ever wondered what you would have done in 1930s Germany: you're doing it right now'

Thanks Joe I'm sure that will mobilize Republicans to get out and vote. Id say Joe and the family are still bitter about getting kicked off the ticket by Harris.

Well it was razor close the last two times against the same opposition. So you'd have to ask why do the Dems keep picking 'pretty poor candidates'? Or maybe it has little to do with the Democrat candidate and the Republicans have circa 45% of the vote sewn up regardless of who they run and what policies they pursue…

I wonder 🤔 is Joe a double agent, especially as the Dems removed him from running