Israel are going to start WWIII

Yet the people you laud seemingly enjoy murdering those same babies. Talking from both sides of your mouth again. Own it.

The notion of "Israel has to retaliate against <insert your terrorist group/State of choice> because they've vowed to wipe Israel off the map" is so long in the tooth now that it just does not wash anymore.

Take Hamas in Gaza - there were, according to Israel, circa 30,000 Hamas. Poorly armed/equipped, hence attacking Israel, to "wipe it off the map" on scooters an Toyota 4x4s. Contrast that with and army of 6 figures in terms of personnel, armed with a variety of vehicles, up to and including battle tanks, flying F35s and with as much ammunition as they could physically carry - replenished the very next day (including 2000lb bombs). Israel itself is protected by Iron Dome, David's sling, Arrow and now Thaad.

Just three weeks ago, Israel stated that "Hamas is defeated". So why now continue to bomb Gaza? Well, just look at what they are bombing - hospitals. And starving the population.

Make no mistake, this has absolutely moved on from "defeating Hamas" and "We're defending ourselves" to the extermination of the Palestinians in Gaza. And before you come back about "But the hostages…", The Israeli Govt. didn't give two hoots for the hostages. If anything, keeping the hostages there (alive or dead) suits them down to the ground. The hostages and their families have been utterly abandoned for a long time.

Last point - if Israel is under existential threat from Gaza, why was it so easy for them to open their second front in Lebanon? And before you retort with "but Hezbollah were firing rockets at us" - see above for Israeli air defences and refer back to the chart posted here on the significantly greater number of rockets Israel was firing back.

Even Iran were unable (possibly unwilling) to directly impact Israel with their barrage of missiles, rockets, drones and whatever your having yourself.

So, enough of the existential threat. Its worn out. Its old hat.

I'll give you a huge chunk of "benefit of the doubt" about your last comment - its possible it just comes across as totally crass, but its possible you didn't mean it the way it might come across.

In principle, I agree. At the moment.

But if Gaza becomes a starvation zone and the Palestinians, especially the children, start to die in droves, I think the world will quickly turn. Especially as those images, videos and reports become more and more common place over the winter

I'd imagine "safe" countries for BN to travel to would become a rapidly diminishing luxury for him. Except the Hague of course.

It will happen but why do you think the IDF are killing the Press and evicting UNWRA? So that nobody will witness their Genocide and War Crimes.

In fairness, I do believe in reasoned debate.

If I can correct mistruths, misconceptions etc. then I will do so - as do many others. If that enables people to make a more educated opinion, then that's good enough for me.

There are those whose opinion I will never change, and I respect that, because I know they will never change mine.

Nail on the head, as ever.

But those who think politics will be enough to save Netanyahu and Gallant might be surprised when public opinion shifts. We've already seen a shift in the last 24 hours with the banning of UNWRA. Everyone is condemning it (possibly optics of course).

Reports of thousands of deaths from starvation in the next few months will be the turning point.

As regards the ICJ, the evidence folder just keeps getting bigger and bigger by the day. Added to that, Israel was directed to ensure Genocide was prevented. Banning UNWRA just turned any defence they thought might have had into ash.

As a slight aside, I think one of the Hamas accused is still alive. I wonder do people think there will be no chance he will be prosecuted along with Netanyahu and Gallant? Now that would be a conundrum for the ICC…