Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

20 years ago Howard Dean's campaign ended after an overenthusiastic scream on stage. Today Trump and MAGA can hold racist rallies and it's nothing more than a shrug of the shoulders.

But Obama had a very rare gift of inspiring the base while pursuing essentially centrist policies. Conventional Democrat wisdom is a presidential candidate has to be either one thing or the other. And if you're a Democrat elder choosing a candidate to run against Donald Trump there's a very strong incentive to go the 'safe' establishment route. Even if they lose it's going to be by a narrow margin and you won't get much flak for adhering to conventional wisdom…

They'll give it at least another few hours to see what the narrative is, then they'll come in here echoing that.

Or, given how close it is to the election, at least some of them will stay away for the most part hoping he wins in which case they'll come back immediately, in full volume. If he loses, they'll stay away until January and then come back complaining about how bad Harris is.

All the while time telling us they're not a fan of Trump and don't care that he won/lost, they just find it amusing to see the Libs upset.

Dan Quayle suffered years of mockery over misspelling potato(e) which made him effectively unelectable when he ran in 2000. Trump spent 10 minutes last week musing about Arnold Palmer's penis and nobody bats an eyelid.

I swear - and I said it last night about that Miller freak - if you saw some of these weirdos in a movie you'd laugh it off as completely unbelievable. But here we are in 2024.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: Trump isn't playing by the same set of rules as other politicians. Most politicians run on having a spotless character. Although it works, it's also a fragile conceit. Any scandal is toxic - potentially campaign ending.

Trump is doing an entirely different thing, using a visceral base message and personal brand to construct a cult of personality. It makes him pretty much impervious from criticism in the sense that even if some supporters accept his personal failings, they're still going to vote for him.

It seems like a lot of people still have a hard time accepting this, including many Democratic strategists, seemingly, because they've not come an inch closer to figuring out how to pop the Trumpist bubble. They still seem to think enough scandal will do it.

THERE IS NO AMOUNT OF SCANDAL.

What Trump's great speech last night? Where he promised to back the police increase support for the border police and ice agents deport the illegal immigrants flooding into American towns and cities. Secure the border repair the economy cut taxes on tips and overtime support the car industry make loans on cars tax deductible but only if cars are made in America. Tax credit for family caregivers for families who take care of a parent. No tax on social security benefits for senior citizens. He has no issue with fracking and will cut energy costs within one year by 50%.

Only thing I would have probably not had the Kill Tony host Tony Hinchcliffe he basically did his normal standup routine where he slags every one off.

Not buying the Nazi rally crap being parroted from the likes of CNBC or Hillary Clinton.

Anyway not to long to go now we will see how it all plays out on November 5th.

• Harris is a Prostitute
• Clinton is a Bitch
• Puerto Ricans are Trash
• Latinos are unwanted
• Blacks love watermelons
• America is for Americans ONLY

were they all from Tony Hinchcliff?

so cnbc and Clinton are the architects of that Nazi **** show last night??

What Trump's great speech last night? Where he promised to back the police increase support for the border police and ice agents deport the illegal immigrants flooding into American towns and cities. Secure the border repair the economy cut taxes on tips and overtime support the car industry make loans on cars tax deductible but only if cars are made in America.

Didn't he promise to do all that in 2016? Why is he talking about the same thing again in 2024?

He's a living example of "Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, shame on you…."

But in fairness to you, I don't think you're being fooled, I don't think you believe for a second that he'll do any of that, or that you care that he won't. You like the narrative, I'm pretty sure that's what give you that tingling feeling in your lower stomach as you watched that last night.

If Trump wins next week, that event will set the tone in conservative political circles for the next few years, even if he loses it will to some degree I imagine. And I'd say that's why you think it was a great speech.

You can deny the Nazi comparisons all you want, none of us here are buying it.

Apparently the Trump campaign are now saying that Hinchcliffe's words do not represent the Trump campaign. I can't see the campaign getting into a spat with him if he had been paid a fee for his appearance, it would only continue the link between them.

Huge own goal yesterday.

Was it really though? Seemed to me like an 'edgy' Jimmy Carr-type gag referencing these yokes

Before a different audience he would have said the Isle of Man or Sicily or whatever

Whereas Trump himself has at least semi-seriously 'trashed' other Central American countries