Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

If the Democrats weren't a post working class party, it wouldn't be so.

It'll be some kick in the nads to globalisation and the sanctity of the free market if he gets in, by comparison.

Even towards the beginning on her campaign I got such a shot of enthusiasm and belief that she would take the prize I called it for Harris- she had 100% support of the democrats, money flooded in and she carefully negotiated the early interviews and indeed the debate - but shortly after the debate her campaign stalled - she should have had a fresh wave of support after that success and she didn’t - and shortly after that I reluctantly called it for Trump .

While of course candidates in a two horse race have to take responsibility of the scorecard as a person of personal integrity I don’t think she can be faulted that much, certainly not compared to Trump- so the answer for me lies partly in the complete sh1t show that Biden was responsible for in terms of his second term and likely just a general anit-Democrat sentiment in America right now - I think a lot was out of her hands in fairness - MAYBE a democrat candidate not associated with the Biden regime might have done better- but I don’t think so

You mean the guy who is on record saying how important the stock market is and has a few hotels around the world is sticking it to globalisation and the free market.

Which begs the question, what are the “realities” that they’re running away from?

I’ll take a look when I’ve some time and thanks - but jayzuz, moving your operations to Chinese Hong Kong? He must be very desperate 😀

Even "elite" college professors have earned their position by hard work in researching and teaching. Not quite the same thing as being left the odd hundred million by your old man. Furthermore, Harris' mother was lergely responsible, as a lone parent, for her upbringing.

What a stupid, cheap and irrelevant jibe. Reveals a lot about commentary in this thread.

Droll: if she didn't 'hit' these groups, we'd hear criticism of her 'ignoring them' etc.

I see you've avoided answering questions about your pigeon post claiming that her upbringing was neither humble nor blue collar.

"she and her party could reverse their disdain for thr blue collar"

How does this manifest itself(this "disdain")?

What is it about Michelle Obama that riles certain people up so much. She gets way more vitriol than any former First Lady for some reason.

And for the record, I don't buy the clear cognitive decline with respect to Biden because I don't agree that it was negatively impacting his ability to do the job. Any issue around it was an appearance thing which was heavily influenced by the fact that there was an ongoing campaign being fought. And I don't agree that whatever he is going through that it is more significant than Trump, Trump consistently makes similar mistakes than Biden and someone within his own team/administration felt it was necessary 4 years ago to test him in that respect. Neither of them have the same mental agility that they had 10 years ago. That's the simple fact.

And as for declaring repeatedly that you don't care you win, you don't need to tell me, it doesn't bother me either way, it reinforces my views on Trumps capability in fact that so few people will openly admit to being fan of him, and those that will go that far, refuse to explain why (such as the anarchist in chief for example). Again, that is their right, as I said, it just tells me once again that he is so little going for him that it seems that he appeals mostly to contrarians who simply like that he dislikes the same people that they dislike.

her party could reverse their disdain for thr blue collar, there would be no Trump then.

We're used to you blaming Democrats for Trumps existence but it looks pretty stupid to be doing it at a time when Unions are praising Biden for his support, and Trump is talking to Musk about how it was great that he shut down unions in Tesla and both of them are agreeing that they don't want to pay overtime.

Trump used McDonalds last week in an attempt to appeal to the working class, when he was asked if he supporting increasing the hourly minimum wage, he refused to answer.

During the weekend when the country Georgia has had an obviously corrupted count of votes cast in their election, I'm surprised to see so many poster on this thread act/write/argue that we'll actually know the outcome of the USA election on the 5th November. Does everyone ("on both sides" :p ) believe that the Trump appointed officials in the state of Georgia (and others) will, in fact, certify the results by January?

I think there's an awful lot of vigorous debate over betting odds and poll data and early voting numbers that's distracting from the non-neglible possibility that there may be no presidential candidate to be sworn in come January.

Come Election Time it will be ineresting to see who the American voters listen to most is it Taylor Swift or Joe Rogan what a shambolic situation America finds itself in.