Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

I wonder which party will gain a motivational boost from the fear inherent in the polls being so close?

Will it be the GOP who believe the election is theirs? Or will it be the Dem's whose strategy is still to hammer home both that every single vote matters and the danger implicit in a 2nd Trump term?

I know it seems like a rhetorical. That in a sane multipolar country that the choice would be fairly clear. Even on the simple topics of Economy, security & immigration let alone those of the courts, abortion & personal rights and the US place in leading the "Free world".

Until Bush 2, the above (apart from Abortion) would all have been GOP strengths. Yet now? The US economy has weathered post COVID inflation better than RoW and has recovered quicker in terms of arresting inflation, adding jobs and growing the Economy all under the Dems.

Trump, and the GOP big names are compliant toadies of Putin and much in the mould of Lindbergh, believe that America can isolate itself from the world and it can do so without consequence to itself (& sure fúck the world).

The US polling Orgs and their methodologies are facing probably their final trial of trust there. If there is a 3% plus shift in result V poll? It will take a long time before pollsters regain voters trust & value again, regardless of which party wins.

There is a huge degree of fragility built into the US system of checks & balances that it survived 2020 despite of.

Part of that system, wasn't just Pence, the Courts or Congress. It was the 4th estate and even Twitter, the orgs like WaPo that called out Jan 6th for what it was. The unimpeded ability of millions to amplify those stories and to add their own distaste to what they saw. Attempted insurrection.

Now?

Those News orgs are being muzzled by owners and Twitter has become a disaster zone of selective amplification and more particularly selective silencing and shadow banning to the benefit of only one side.

Politics has become very tribal in the last 5-10 years. Idiots like Boris Johnson and Liz Truss were able to become PM in the UK (Johnson is a total vacuous dimwit with a posh accent and was never even close to being the heavyweight intellectual that the right wing press claimed). With this type of tribalism, just about any type of clown can get elected, just as long as they are 'popular'.

Still waiting for you to answer the question referred to in these posts.

What is the Democrat Bullshit of the last 4 years you think the American people are sick of? I really want to know you think it is.

I see Harris topping his numbers.

That's a hell of a forecast/prediction.

While I would absolutely prefer Harris to win, I don't see her cracking 80 million. It should be remembered that Biden's vote tally was powered by people being in the maelstrom of Trump's presidency. With that reality receding four years into the past, I just don't think you're going to get that kind of voter engagement again.

My forecast is more modest - I can see both candidates cracking 70 million.

 the American people were being held hostage by his handlers and his stubbornness

It's bizarre to write this about Biden when while he was being an effective President, Trump was being investigated, charged and convicted of campagin fraud associated with earlier elections. Was being investigated and charged for crimes associated with election interference in Georgia, was being investigated and charged for crimes associated with state secrets. Was being found in court to be responsible for Sexual Assault and who forced the chair of the RNC to step down so his lackey and his daughter in law could be installed as chair and vice-chair respectively. Oh, and who has used campaign donations to fund the fighting of his legal battles.

But the American people were held hostage by a functioning President?

It's this mindset right here that has no basis in reality that I am most frustrated about around this campaign, not who ends up winning. That someone could write the above post without considering the content in this response is a sign of very unpleasant times.

You claim a deep state will be controlling Harris, you've literally plagiarised tweets of a far right conspiracy theorist.... Your claims have simply become more and more zany. Fyi, Mob has a history in that forum of debunking rather than pushing conspiracies.

Maybe you'll believe it if it comes from Fox News

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/democrats-beware-red-wave-coming-because-voters-know-not-better-off-biden-took-office

The last 4 years have been very hard on a lot of people,expecially the bottom half, Democrats preaching from the ivory tower about how the proles have never had it so good, and they are deplorables has created an opening for anyone but the snooty Democrats among moat working class people.

Harris camp really hitting Trump over the weird 40 minute concert and other signs of age catching up to him:

Sundowning of course referring to the phenomenon where older people become less cognitively coherent at the end of the day when they are more tired.

It’s funny but like we’ve heard said some swing voters don’t like this stuff. It’s a gamble on whether this sort of meme moves the needle in a positive direction.

Did you copy this from a 2016 post?

The deplorables comment was 8 years ago. Catch up.

Perception is reality, rightly or wrongly. If Democratic party insiders knew about Biden's increasing physical/mental frailty, they had to know on some level that having this exposed to the American public would tank him in the polls and that he wasn't the person to project an image of strength and confidence to counter the gathering momentum of Trump's reelection bid. If US presidential elections were fought purely on the ability to act as a rational statesman, Biden would probably still win it now at a canter, but they're not. Image and the ability to inspire voters to the polls is a huge, huge consideration.

And it seemed like the original plan with Biden was just to try and hide or ignore it until the election was over, and that wouldn't be considered an acceptable course in any professional endeavour.