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Israel are going to start WWIII

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    BBC and Telegraph journalists have been very vocal complaining that Hezbollah are not letting them visit the region, how come?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    I'm genuinely surprised you met some friendly Israeli backpackers. I spent a year backpacking around the world when I was younger. Met loads of people from all sorts of countries in all sorts of different scenarios. Got on with almost all of them. There were 4 groups though who I pretty much always found to be rude/unfriendly:

    1. South Africans
    2. Russians
    3. Israelis
    4. French Canadians

    They could all have actually been lovely people but they were hiding it well if they were.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,816 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Do you mean all the countries that have peace settlements with israel and recognize israel?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,816 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    The israelis I met could be split in two. One group were very insular and would rarely talk to outsiders. A lot of these would even bring their own cooking equipment with them so they didn't have to use non Kosher ones. They would go to israeli hostels, go to israeli bars, eat at Kosher resteraunts etc…

    The other group would be very open and chatty and friendly. I traveled a couple of countries in south america with them. Lovely people, I had a great time.

    In my experience it was a 50/50 split. But it's not like I met all of them so I couldn't make any sort of determination on what anyone elses experience is like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭CliffHangeroner


    In any sane world this alone would be reason enough for the Biden/Harris administration to stop arming the zionists to the teeth so they can continue the slaughter innocents but unfortunately we have a US government with the backbone and morals of an alley cat.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭TokTik


    Hezbollah let the BBC and other US news organisations have free rein in a hospital that israel had claimed was a terrorist base with tunnels etc, but having searched it, none of them found anything. israel can ban reporters from recording their genocide in Gaza, but they can’t stop the Lebanese from letting reporters in. That must absolutely sicken them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭TokTik


    Pretty much the same. I’ve Jewish mates in the US who would do anything for you, but when backpacking I found Israelis to be the loudest, rudest, most arrogant people going.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,816 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    This is a complete tangent from the topic but…..

    When i was backpacking in South America, everywhere I went there were stories about crazy Israelis. They all did their military service, and saved up and went backpacking and let off some steam. A few went to far. In one Colombian city they have a reputation for renting apartments, buying a big back of coke and getting a load of hookers. A lot of the Israelis I knew were women and they were disgusted by the stories.

    There's also stories of them doing dangerous stuff. Whenever you hear of someone dying on the death road or anything like that, it's an Israeli.

    I actually had a pretty bad horse riding accident in Bolivia. My friends, an irish girl and israeli guy, picked me up at the hospital and brought me to the hostel we were staying in. They went out to get pizza. When they came back, everyone at the pizza place had been talking about the Israeli guy who had had an accident horse riding.

    So I don't know how many of the stories are true considering I became an israeli after I had an accident.

    BTW, I have some photos of me with some israelis on top of a 6000m mountain. In one we're all holding the israeli flag and in the other we're all holding the Irish flag. On the mountain we celebrated Hanukkah and when we descended we all went to an Irish pub :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Possibly discussed here (or other similar threads) already but I wonder is it possible for Ireland to do something like that (Occupied Territories bill) or will it break EU law? Trade is an EU competence, there is a trade agreement between the EU and Israel currently.

    I remember I was scanning the wikipedia page about it and it said the AG had advised them it could be illegal.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupied_Territories_Bill

    Even if he was wrong, there likely will be some case in the CJEU taken over it if the govt. here ever brings something like that in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,024 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Look, squirrel!

    Hezbollah clearly allowed the media stay in Southern Lebanon only for Israel to blow them to smithereens and your response to that is whataboutery



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    One of the big differences is that many of the Israelis that were used by Israel for propaganda purposes after October 7th were women.
    I remember various young Israeli women who died in the attack, and in death they were weaponised, as "Hamas murders an Irish girl", "Hamas murders a Canadian girl", "Hamas murders a German girl", "Hamas murders a Canadian girl" and doubtless there were others that I missed. On closer reading it turned out that these poor "girls" were Israeli citizens serving in the Israeli military, with dual nationality. Clearly their deaths were very sad events for their families, but the other reality is that they were part of the repressive machinery of the Israeli state. It may be that they carried out humanitarian work for the Palestinians, but if so I missed that part.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭TokTik


    Was the same with the hostages. These poor young women kidnapped. Took about 10 minutes for their TikToks to surface with them dancing around in IOF uniforms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    The people who have debased the "anti-semitism" phrase are those like yourself who have continually used it in an attempt to shut down debate on Israel's behaviour. You have used it to excuse the most appalling behaviour by Israel and the worst treatment possible against Palestinians and your other neighbours. If this has resulted in some people now equating Israel, naZionism, anti-semitism and Jews, you don't get to complain because it is precisely you and your supporters who have achieved the conflation of these different words/concepts.

    It might come as a surprise to you that the only people who yell Zionist as loudly as some on here are the KKK and other right wing Aryan supramecy groups, but, as you say, have at it.

    Wrong again - these days it's people like the KKK and other far-right groups who are naZionism's biggest supporters. Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile. They embrace those who are like them, and recognise you as their soulmates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,365 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    same, it's universally agreed they are the biggest **** on the backpacking scene. fighting over every service and cent with hostel staff etc. arrogant tossers.

    even israeli media writes about how awful their tourists are

    https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/skyk0xxgs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    When I saw this bit:

    according to Starmer's statement

    I stopped reading, because Starmer is one of the main enablers for Israel's genocide. You might not remember his part in the destroying British Labour party support for a just settlement in Palestine.
    I wouldn't believe a single the man says without checking it three times with independent sources for veracity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    In first place, I'm glad to see that you accept the premise of a Palestinian state, this is a huge step forward on your part.

    That said, I have no idea how good or bad a Palestinian state will be in general terms, but one thing I can be sure of is that it will be very, very much better for the Palestinian people than Israel has been.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    I'm can't recall any condemnation of the US for offering aid, you might link to where that was done. But some of us remember the floating dock that the US built early this year "in order to bring in aid"; at the time it looked like an attempt by the US to buy some good publicity for themselves. So where is the dock now, and how much aid did they deliver using it?

    There has been plenty of condemnation of the US overall stance though, which is that it has been facilitating this genocide for over a year now.

    Butthen it's neither today nor yesterday that the phrase "white man speaks with forked tongue" was first used.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    Have you ever considered writing a sequel to Alice in Wonderland? I'd say you'd write a great fantasy novel, maybe even better than the original.

    Mod Edit: Warning applied for uncivil posting

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    First we get the truth, with a link,

    and then along comes Hasbara with a lie, and logically, with no link.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Putting all of your uncivil insults aside that add nothing to the discussion


    You made how many posts now blaming those trying to help and defending those who are trying to make this situation worse for Palestinians?

    Like I said there are clearly those who don’t give two 💩 about the issue and just latched on to flog their usual horse, in your case your hate of US has completely blinded any objective thinking



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    Are you from the US? It certainly sounds like it.

    You might consider whether Israel would have managed to kill so many people if the US (and to be fair Germany) weren't happy to keep supplying Israel with the weapons they use to murder Palestinians.

    Supplying a little aid to improve the optics doesn't absolve the US (or Germany) from the major part they have played in this genocide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    Mod Edit: Warning applied. One day forum ban also issued

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,441 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Yes, this excuse that because Israel is supposedly facing an existential threat, it is then free to commit as many war crimes as it feels like is absolute garbage. Whether facing existential threat or not, the exact same international humanitarian laws apply and Israel is not free to massacre or slaughter innocent Palestinian civilians. These are still hideous war crimes and are completely illegal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    You have logged on here to post a fake version of Middle East history in which glorious Hezbollah ran the Heathen Israelis out of Lebonan at the end of the 2006 war, rather than it being a UN agreed withdrawel.

    Why any normal person would want to do this, and 'Big up' Hezbollah's miliary achievements is beyond me.

    Why you still feel you have credibility after attempting such blatent lies is also beyond me.

    A person always has the right of complain about racism, bigitory and anti-semitism, even more so when the concepts are being denuded by some elements who operate more freely in their absence.

    If you can find me a Klan member shouting support for the Jews that would be great.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭FaganJr


    The people that claim to be hostorically associated with occupied Palestine have NO DNA link to the area at all. And it is the Palestinians that are the real Semites.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭TokTik


    Israel has successfully defended itself against another 3 journalists staying at a guesthouse in Lebanon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,289 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    And another 36 women and children in a school in Gaza. There'll be big celebrations among the IDF tonight again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭taratee


    No, Israelis will always be looking over their shoulder because people have made it their goal in life to kill them, because they are Jewish and because Israel exists. You can't argue against that.

    Am Yisrael Chai - Bring them home.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭taratee


    That building, the Israel Defense Force headquarters, is not a military installation. It is an administrative office building just like any administrate headquarters of the army of any democratic country. There are no stockpiles of weapons; no rocket launchers, no munitions works in that building. Take some time to research the military bases in Israel. In a country as small as Israel, I think you'll find that the IDF military bases are not located near schools or hospitals and they are as far away from civilian areas as possible.

    Am Yisrael Chai - Bring them home.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,024 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




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