Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

you and other posters have an intense dislike of Farrell

I literally don't. I don't even necessarily agree with Dubinusa on this.

My point is, I don't think he's remotely sh1tting on Farrell here (different tone or otherwise).

I don't hate Farrell.

I'm not being disingenuous.

I don't agree every with everything Dubinusa is saying (tho I agree with some things).

But I'm absolutely certain he's not "sh1tting all over Farrell".

Disagree by all means, but all too often, you lump any criticism of Farrell as "sh1tting all over" him. It's not.

I don't know how much clearer I can be.

I personally think some people just love the misery. Even when it's not there.

I mean what the feck would Farrell know about rugby or leadership or how to maintain and improve a team.

you lump any criticism of Farrell as "sh1tting all over" him

This is the absolute textbook definition of disingenuousness. (Disingenuity?) Nowhere have I said that any criticism is unwarranted, you know that full well.

The exact point I was making - which again, you've completely ignored - is that none of the criticism of Farrell on the Healy issue has been supported by a plausible alternative course of action. That is not reasonable criticism or fair comment.

I don't know how much clearer I can be.

You're being very clear, don't worry about that. It is very obvious what you think.

Nowhere have I said that any criticism is unwarranted, you know that full well.

Correct, you haven't. You've went straight to "sh1tting all over Farrell". That's exactly my point.

I don't have an issue with you, FFF.

I have an issue with your persistent "sh1tting all over Farrell" almost any time there's criticism of Farrell.

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POM should do the team a favour and retire before the next six nations. He’s holding back so many players development. His spot is protected by his silly IRFU contract.

Unhinged my ring. Marty Moore retiring meant O'Toole had to stay on as th. The plan nuts, was for him to switch over.

We'll go nowhere quickly if we are relying on Porter to play 65 to 80 minutes. Healy is a 15 minute player at this level. These tests are a good chance to try other options. Not having a go at faz. Disappointed though

What do u consider **** on Faz? Is he beyond criticism? Btw, I appreciate Faz and fully support him. Back in the early days of his reign, I supported him and advised others to be patient.

Bagmen is a poor term. Apprentices would be better. Yes, this squad is old and will crumble without a bit of new life. Age doesn't discriminate. It's just my thoughts and there's no need to get into attack mode. Like every other poster here, my viewpoints are my own, as are yours and if we differ, that's fine.

We are going around in circles. Attack mode is the order of the day. Let's see how we go this autumn? After this block, we will see where we are.

Beirne started at 6 for Ireland in our most recent game.

At a minimum, he's an option there.