General Irish politics discussion thread

Point missed entirely.

SF are claiming they're different, and that they can work wonders.

They are incompetent in Government in NI and they were incompetent on DCC. They're incompetent at running their own party, incompetent at candidate vetting, and even somehow incompetent at cover-ups these days.

The good people who help people get jobs sure as hell aren't working down the local dole office on lower end civil servant salaries buddy. I can't think of a single person I know who got their job through the fecking dole office, though some of them have received Jobseekers Benefit for a brief period of time.

You go on ahead worrying about the people who have also contributed to the tax take of the country having a short term set back and how much damage they're doing to the modicum of tax you're paying while ignoring the much bigger chunk going on those who have absolutely no interest in working but, 'engage' with the system by showing up to the odd meeting and doffing the cap. As long as you get your soundbite I suppose you can pretend they're doing something useful on the spend on benefits.

For the record, the link you provided exclusively gives pertinent information on Jobseekers Allowance, it links separately to information on Jobseekers Benefit. Absolutely nothing on the link you sent is about Jobseekers Benefit beyond noting it exists and hyperlinking to a totally different page that discusses it. Just put your hands up and acknowledge you jumped in two footed and didn't realise they weren't the same thing instead of digging deeper and looking like a spoofer.

Thanks for this. I still remain of the opinion that those in receipt of Jobseekers Benefit should not be included, but this answers my initial query on the topic.

In practical terms, does anyone know how many of these fines are typically issued in a given year? From that we could make some estimates on what this is likely to achieve.

Ah yes, because your accusations of, 'made up stories' and providing links to a totally different payment to the one I was discussing really demonstrated that you were engaging in a reasonable manner and you'd never lower yourself to personal attacks.

Curious that you are defending how great the civil servants working for the dole office are.....while simultaneously perceiving my suggestion that you might be a civil servant yourself as a personal attack though.

I think we're done here buddy.

The point was, the poster can spot and complain about what he/she calls a disgrace in a single area over a short period of time and complain endlessly about it and who he/she thinks created it, but never complains about those who created a far bigger mess over a longer period affecting far more people,
That is funny. That was the point.

Not sure what version of reality you are living in but in this one Michelle O Neill was never our health minister. If she was I'd imagine it would be much better than it is today

You're still assuming they support them.

They clearly don't support SFs spoofing on the issue; but that's all you can take from the statement.

She was a failure as MoH in NI, why would she be any better down here?

Your evasion tactics aren't particularly good.

Nothing improved. A system in decline continued to decline.

SF claim to be able to fix everything, but they can't fix anything in the statelet they've been in Government in; on and off, for 26 years. Everything gets worse.

And blaming it all on the UUP/DUP/SDLP/Alliance/Westminster doesn't work as its not like SF are going to be in single party Government down here either, should they ever get in.

Are you admitting to your own homophobia with that first line or trying to accuse me of it, by the way? You need to answer this one pretty sharpish.