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Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

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  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wouldn't be the most exciting squad I've ever seen



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,055 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I imagine they'll open the squad to some development/fringe players on top of that. Sam Prendergast, Cathal Forde and Max Deegan, for example. Tom Ahern too.

    Also, nice to see Tadhg Bernie back in the leinster team. Matching his jersey to his scrum hat. I knew he never really left in his heart.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,083 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    How can Ulster and Ireland be completely at odds about O'Toole??

    Because Ireland desperately need loosehead cover and are OK at tighthead.

    Personally I wouldn't have Stockdale in the squad. Is Jimmy O'Brien injured?

    yeah, JOB is injured, Larmour too, but Stockdale is in good form.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    I'm not sure they're at odds more so Ulster have an urgent need for him at Tighthead. Ireland don't. If Ulster can bolster their depth at TH I'm sure we will see TOT move over.

    I'll give Stockdale his credit he is showing shades of getting his 2018 mojo back. Some super finishes this season.

    I'd be disappointed for Deegan to miss out as he's been incredible this season. But it looks like Izzy would be getting the nod over him which is hard to argue with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,369 ✭✭✭bingobango12


    Thought they might be moving on from Healy, Henderson, POM, Murray and to a lesser extent Stockdale in this window.


    From my count 5 of that squad is also currently injured/coming back from injury.

    Deegan, Osbourne, Bolton can probably feel a bit hard done by if the above is correct.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Ben Murphy should be included. He's been very good. Deegan should be involved also. Pity that Loughman is injured, he's been playing well. With the current injuries among the squad, it's possible that there will be forced changes. I'd be happy if Forde made the squad. I reckon they'll include 5 players to mentor this block. Possibles could be, Postletwaithe, Gavin, Gleason, Boyle and Gus McCarthy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,055 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    It's not the actual squad. It's a prediction but it will probably be close to the squad when considering the actual match day squads for the various matches.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,122 ✭✭✭Shehal


    The problem with only have 6 URC games before the autumn internationals is its hard for an up and coming player to make enough of an impression to justify inclusion, especially in a squad as strong as Ireland's, so I would expect this squad to be relatively stable and 'as you where' so to speak. By the time the 6N comes around we'll have had 10 rounds of URC plus 4 rounds of Europe so a new player might have done enough in that time to force their way in.

    Having said that looking at that squad I must say Deegan not being included is an absolute outrage, really cant think of many 6's that suit the way Ireland play more than Deegan.

    Maybe a left field pick for some but I would like to see Clarkson, been impressed with his play around the field and as long as he can hold up the scrum I dont see many reason's why he shouldn't be included especially given the age profile of THP and the fact someone such as Oli Jager hasn't played much rugby this season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    I love how GT talks about Ulster "reconverting" (sic) TOT to TH. He's a tight head, he's always been a TH, the Ireland set-up have talked about converting him to LH, have given him zero minutes there. Ulster aren't doing anything other than continuing to give him games at his established position, where he has won caps for Ireland. How the hell do you "reconvert" someone?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭ionadnapóca


    Has TOT not even played LH for Ulster?

    If Ireland want him as a LH he should be playing LH for Ulster.

    Ideally.

    I know why its not happening. I'm just saying it should happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    I'd say that's fair enough if they let us sign a TH. IF TOT moved to TH, with Marty Moore retiring, we'd have two THs - Scott Wilson and Codie Barrett, who's already an emergency signing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,372 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Squad is out. Doris is our new captain. Prendergast and Izuchukwu the probable debutants for this series.

    Interesting to see Kelleher named. Initial prognosis was that he'd miss at least the first game through injury. Might yet see Gus McCarthy called up from the training panel.

    Clarkson has started the season well. Glad to see him get a panel spot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,854 ✭✭✭theVersatile


    Nothing too controversial there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Surprised that Deegan not selected. On form there's a couple in there without merit. Henshaw has yet to play and O'Mahoney is injured and not playing well. However, it's the most expected selection.



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 45,375 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,014 ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    O'Mahony can't be both out injured and not playing well, surely?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,369 ✭✭✭bingobango12


    My bad, didn’t see him listed as winger originally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,014 ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Any ideas on when Jack Conan is due back? Had started the season well, opportunity for probably Prendergast there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭roverjoyce


    Jobs for the boys in full flow this week

    Cullen getting an extension for having won nothing in 3 years

    Sexton getting a gig from the IRFU

    POM, Healy, Murray being named in an Ireland squad



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,083 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    very few surprises there and even less to be outraged about.



  • Administrators Posts: 56,559 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Well what surprises me is Doris is the only proper 8 in the entire squad. With Conan being unavailable I would have thought McCann would have been the next pick, surprised that he's been omitted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,854 ✭✭✭theVersatile




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,854 ✭✭✭theVersatile


    Was the same during the Summer when Conan missed out for personal reasons - presumably one of Prendergast, Beirne or Timoney will cover it anything happens to Doris.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭50HX


    Name a replacement for Cullen so?

    And while you are at it who would you have in instead of Murray (BM hasn't enough played but goin in the right direction), Healy( who is international std back up to porter, there is a reason he plays a full 80 regularly.

    Yeah Sexton is an outrageous call...the 3 10's in the squad have less than 25 caps between them, sure what could a former 10 with 100+ caps bring to the table🙄

    Ball hasn't been kicked & the nonsense has started already



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,323 ✭✭✭TRC10


    I've said it before and I'll say it again. If Cathal Forde was from Leinster, he'd be the most talked about young prospect in Irish rugby.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,672 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Really seems silly having Healy, POM and Murray in the team again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭roverjoyce


    What about the world cup or have we forgotten about that

    None of 3 will be there, why not give youth a chance (Blade/Forde,)

    Let the young 10's make the 10 position their own not have the old 10 back in

    Cullen replacement could look at Mark McCall, Felix Jones,



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭Novfith


    Sorry to be pesimistic but anyone else look at that squad of players and see lots of ageing players with lots of mileage in the legs?

    Looking at the forwards, Herring (34), Bealham (33), Healy (37) are really pushing on.

    Tadhg Beirne will be 33 when the 6N starts. Furlong will be 32. O'Mahoney is 35. Van de Flier is 31. Henderson is 32

    Even in the backs, Bundee is 34, Lowe is 32, Gibson Park is 32, Murray is 35, Henshaw is 31, McCloskey is 32.



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