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Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 12.02.26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,485 ✭✭✭✭Father Hernandez


    He's an excellent defender and a great signing. Still only at the club a couple of months but already showing a lot of leadership imo.

    Blood pouring down this head and eager to get back on the pitch, take note Mason Mount.

    A good win and an excellent second half. If we want to be where we feel we should be, beating Brentford at home is the minimum. A good run of fixtures coming up, really need to kick on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭davemckenna25


    Okay. You go with that far fetched option if it helps you push the blame to EtH and the staff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,199 ✭✭✭✭FourFourRED




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭fatherted1969


    I've a regular poster set to ignore the last few months, I clicked into his posts just to see had anything changed and no, no matter what the result is you can be certain there'll be an angle that points blame at the manager. You can't debate these people, best course is the ignore function

    Nice to get the win, very much a second string midfield and they coped well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,304 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    You can completely absolve him too. Cool.

    According to the ex player on commentary the fix for the injury was stich and glue, which would need to be done in the dressing room.

    The vasaline approach could work, but not certain. But sure zero chance the medical guys communicated with the coaches at all during the various times they tried to treat him. Utterly outlandish to suggest any communication or mutual decision making. All on the medical 100%.

    Post edited by Mitch Connor on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭Caustic


    Stupid Ten hagg didn't even get a physio degree in his time at Manchester, crap head scout, bad dof, poor at contract and wage negotiations hasnt even bothered to learn English well enough so the media don't manipulate what he says for headlines, he cant keep getting away with this.

    Should be locked up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,304 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Hyperbolic rubbish. Pathetic attempt to move the goal posts to a position I never said.

    I simply said there's a chance the manager team were involved in the decision on how to treat mdl rather than the medical team deciding 100%.

    Cause it's totally likely the medical team would bring him down to the dressing room without talking to the coaches to discuss the impact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭Caustic


    Just a bit of satire really wouldn't take it too seriously it's all cool as you say.

    How do you know a glue gun wasn't used on the line, why would an ex players opinion in a studio be better then uniteds physios who were on the pitch with the player. The only person you managed to criticize is the manager,.over you thinking he rushed the physios with absolutely nothing to back it up only the dreams in your head.

    This would be the physio's call and as an ex player I saw said it could just have reopened from a header and not much they could do about it so maybe you will take his words in better



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,304 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Why would an ex player have a better idea of how a head wound might be treated than you or me? Yeah, I'm stumped by that question.

    I was replying to someone saying it was a massive eff up by the medical team, only them. I didn't just blame ETH. I simply said we dint know that the coaches weren't involved. And if the short term fix had last 60 seconds longer it would have been fine.

    But sure, you and the rest just decide it's 100% on medical and there is no chance ETH was consulted or involved in the decision to keep him on, short term fix etc. None.

    Well done all, another great discussion where only extremes exist. Ffs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭Caustic


    I said then the united physio's and you give out about me moving the goalposts show me where I said he wouldn't know more then you and me, your an absolute joke at this stage. I won't bother with you any more when you are this **** again 2nd time recently you've responded to something I've said and totally misrepresenting what I was saying

    You need to be cool as you say and you might actually enjoy a win from a team.you support instead of trying to find any negative you can



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,304 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Uh huh. Yeah, sure.

    I use the opinion of the ex player saying the full fix would need to be done in the dressing room to inform my view, and conclude a decision to do that would need to be discussed with the manager.

    But sure, 100% on the medical team.

    You bang on about it being a disgrace that ETH didn't get a physio degree as if that was my comment and you've the nerve to say I'm misrepresenting?

    And then if we are saying the medical team likely know better than us, then where the eff does the view that it was a massive screw up by them fit?

    Im genuinely surprised that the idea the manager would be consulted on treatment when the different options have different impacts on the game is an overly negative view of the manager.

    Imo the options were likely hope the short term fix holds and deal with it better at ht, and it nearly did, or sub him off (I doubt we'd have chosen to go down to 10 men while he goes back to the dressing room.) why the fook is that view seeing as being agenda driven?? Even if it was 100% ETHs decision I dont think it was the wrong decision!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭Caustic


    My first post was satire it was a joke about all the **** ten hagg has been blamed for on the thread,.how does this need pointing out to you are you that wound up you missed that and missed when I outright told you as well.

    You then lied that I said an ex player wouldn't know more then me or you when I said united physio team, it's all there people will see it, again so wound up you are resorting to lying now.

    I dont really care it was just an unfortunate incident that rarely comes up but when judging the incident I'd go with the physio's opinion, the peoples who's profession it is with all the knowledge and experience and not what some ex player said about it but you do you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,339 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Look lads they were obviously waiting until HT to sort it properly, De Ligt and RVN were furious because they claim it was dried blood.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,339 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Well they believed it was fine, I'm unsure of the rules but I always thought it was only an active bleed?

    Ten Hag on De Ligt: "It didn't change anything, it was dry blood, so nobody from us understood why he was taken off. I went to Matthijs, he didn't understand. Brentford is very good in corners, then of course you are disappointed."



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Mod note:

    A number of posters have been warned yesterday and today for posting about the thread and or about posters, instead of discussing the team.

    There is a note in the opening post of this thread to highlight that is not welcome. If posting here please post about the team in line with the thread purpose (I know most people are).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,307 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    Looking to head over for the Chelsea game on the 3rd of Nov. Tickets can be got no bother, issue is the flight over that weekend. Looking at 300 quid.

    Anyone any idea of a closer airport etc. Any ideas welcome.

    Ferry is not an option as it'll be 3 brothers heading over for a birthday so drink involved so no driving.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,404 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Liverpool Airport is a doddle. Short and easy bus (or even taxi) from there to Manchester.

    I'm going over to the PAOK game in a few weeks. Flying into Manchester and back from Liverpool as the times suited better.

    If times are tight or if there's a few of you going, splitting a taxi is as handy an option as any. £50 would get you from Liverpool Airport to the middle of Manchester.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,307 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    Its the return flight, it's mad money wanted. That weekend alone is 200/300 alone then goes back to the 15e after it. There must be something on.

    Really appreciate the reply tho



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    Liverpool at home that weekend too. Can get ferry as foot passenger and train from Holyhead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,199 ✭✭✭✭FourFourRED


    Going for PAOK as well. Flight home is 5:45am 😭



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,404 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Ouch. I'm flying back into Belfast from Liverpool at 2pm. My friend's son has never been before so we're doing the Old Trafford tour on the Friday then heading for Liverpool for the flight back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,577 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Liverpool to Dublin 23:50 flight is about GBP 95 on Nov 03.... GBP 20-30 the next morning, Monday 04.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭ericzeking


    The issue with the goal is not the physio or the manager, it was the inability of the players to adjust and take responsibility to rearrange. And Dalot sh!tting the togs.

    Other than that I think it was a really good performance, should have scored more but we have to believe that will come. RH is a very good finisher, if we can get him in tune with those around him. He needs to stay fit and get a good run of games now and get up to speed. I really like alot of what he has already and he is only going to get better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,304 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    thought we showed a lot more in attack in the second half, but as ever I wonder how much is things clicking tacticaly and how much is players abilities shining through.

    Hojlund was better, and specifically (imo) because he wasn't trying to wrestle the defenders - which he commented on himself. Is that him listening, or a more personal aspect?

    Rashford feels clearer - just a better performance rather than a major tactical change (and that is a criticism of him rather than EtH for me)

    I would like to see Dalot play right and Mazraoui left in the upcoming games; I think Dalot is a better outlet on the right than on the left and I think Mazraoui is a better passing option deeper, imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,154 ✭✭✭BKtje


    I loved seeing how angry De Light was at the goal, it shows the passion and commitment he has (and many players have in fairness) even though things aren't going well. Something many of the players have been accused of lacking (even though I don't fully agree).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,577 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    I wouldn't be as focused on the goal we conceded as much as some. It was a f up, and Dalot could have done better, but also credit has to go for a well attacked corner / well taken goal.

    I was really impressed with the second half, up to a point. That point being that we are still struggling for goals. It would have been yet another disaster if Brentford had taken their chance at the end and managed a draw.

    I would like to be optimistic and think that the goals will start to come, making 3 points in games like Saturday more secure, but I'm at the "I'll believe it when I see it stage". Hojlund was very impressive I thought, I do think he will eventually deliver a good chunk of the goals we need but it's still a learning curve for him in my mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,801 ✭✭✭randd1


    A win is a win, and thank feck.

    I didn't see the whole match, just the extended highlights (the 20 minute version), but it looked obvious from even them that the pressing was, arguably for the first time, organised. When United pressed, the options for Brentford were cut off, they gave up some amount of cheap possession.

    I though as well, possession wise in the second half, United looked to be playing it quicker, movement was good, and lads were showing for the ball. Brentford weren't getting in the little touches and interceptions that teams have gotten so cheaply off United for the last while.

    Smarter passing, more passing options, good closing down. About time we saw it. A fair turnaround from half time in fairness, the early goal helped settle the nerves, but a clear winner even with the slimmest margins. The type of game they normally draw or lose, they held out comfortably enough.

    Small steps. Hopefully they can start to make a few big ones.

    A good day for ETH. He's clearly not right for the club and still needs to be replaced based on everything we've seen, a win probably saves him from the chopping block (for how long I don't know), but it's been a long time since we've seen a much stronger second half than a first and some level of organization in the closing down and possession, and lads playing in positions that suit them. More of the same please.

    Rashford, justifiably, has his critics, but he was very good the other day. I think he looked comfortable on the right, and the lad can whip a ball, lets use his obvious pace to burn past lads and whip it in. There's no point in playing Antony there, he's a busted flush, Garnacho is better cutting in and shooting from distance, just tell Rashford take on the man use him as the cut it back/whip it in option, change the delivery up a bit.

    A good day. Lets hope it's not a false dawn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,339 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    At the very LEAST our 3 main forwards should be getting 15 goals each.

    I think Garnacho will probably score the most from the 3.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,142 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    That was a much better performance than the 2-1 scoreline suggests. We dominated them from the 25th minute onwards and credit to ETH as he did change the tactics after the opening spell. Our defense pushed right up on the Brentford players and gave them no space to work with.

    We also attacked in a much better shape than we've seen recently and almost always had a man free to receive a pass, which was great to see. Rasmus had a very good game. Rashford's link up play and passing was top class. Garnacho was his usual live wire self but he really needs to start bringing others into the game around him. I think he had 8 shots in the game, which is way to many when you consider some of the speculative pot shots he was taking at times.

    The main area for concern is once again Dalot. He's been directly responsible for a number of goals already this season and just seems to switch off defensively far too often. It's a huge problem for the backline right now.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭GolfPar


    It won't be for the lack of shooting on his part anyway :-)

    What are we thinking for Thursday? Mount or Zirkzee in for Bruno or something else? Maybe Eriksen further forward and Ugarte in alongside Casemiro.



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