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Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,024 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Looked like he worked to me, cooked the fries, served the people.

    What's Kamala doing today, urging churchgoers to vote after her shenanigans, she might as well try her hand in KFC as that's where she's heading🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,024 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Fake news at it again. He messed up the fries, he's gonna press the red button by mistake and end the world.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,538 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Not fake news at all. I'm saying he failed to replicate an action he was shown 20 seconds earlier while undertaking a planned PR stunt designed to show how easy it is to do.

    That's not fake news.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,026 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Well if he can't be trusted not to burn the fries could he be trusted with the nation's secrets?

    Oh wait…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,047 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Are yoy really having a go at Harris for attending church on Sunday?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,047 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    I'm a bit confused. Are you saying that Harris lying about something is wrong?

    But you are supporting Trump? How do you square that hypocrisy?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,578 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


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    Trump could lose PA,and MI, and still win. I'm being generous to Harris.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    The FivethirtyEight Model has been going in a Trump direction over the last several weeks. It's finally crossed the threshold into saying that he's now the favourite

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    Now obviously that still makes it a coin flip but the big worry for Harris is that the momentum is all with Trump right now and there are still 2 weeks to go.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The general rule is that if Trump does it's completely acceptable and smart.

    Or failing that you can just pretend not to see it and just not respond to any questions about it.

    It's pretty easy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    Remember 538 is essentially working off information (primarily polls) that is a week old, at the least.

    It's a coinflip, it could go either way. Polling will start to wind down now in any case and things will start to get….nutty as two exhausted campaigns try to fall over the line in front.

    Great theatre you would have to admit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 996 ✭✭✭Ozark707


    This has been coming. Can this trend be arrested now by KH? I think a real October surprise might be required at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,024 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Maybe they'll wheel Madge out again, it certainly worked for Hillary, 8 years ago today😄

    https://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/sex/a49818/madonna-promises-blowjob-voters/

    God only knows what this years surprise will be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    The problem for her campaign is that there is nothing between now and election day. In the modern world where everyone is siloed off into their own streaming services and social media bubbles it's really difficult to get people's attention. The debate was one of the few events that broke through but that happened a long time ago now.

    Trump is going around acting erratically and saying insane stuff and it's not affecting his poll numbers one iota. It must be immensely frustrating for the Harris campaign.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,015 ✭✭✭✭briany


    He's a man who's been recorded joking/bragging about grabbing women by their privates, on the phone to the Georgia SoS looking for more non existent votes, recorded saying how he wasn't really supposed to have those classified documents in his house, has several prosecutions against him and has already been convicted of one.

    Exactly what scandal could hit his campaign that would make a potential supporter go, "Well, I could look past all of that, but this is just intolerable!"?

    My opinion - the lines are pretty much drawn at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,310 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    It seems the road to 270 is much harder for Harris than Trump.

    For example.

    Assume Trump wins all the states he won in 2020.

    All he has to do is win Georga and Pennsylvania, and the gig is his.

    Georgia looks more likely, Pennsylvania seems a toss-up at this moment in time,

    But say he loses Pennsylvania, all he has to do is win Arizona, which looks likely and any one of Michigan, Wisconsin or Minnesota.

    Harris will have to win all the 50-50 battles really, while Trump just has to win one.

    Also, the national polls dont really matter, but this time in 2020 Biden had an average of an 8 point lead, but come election day, it was down to 4.5 points.

    This time, Harris does have a lead of about 2 points, but its all in a handful of states, where the election will be won.

    Georgia and Arizona seem a lock for Trump this time around.

    That gives him 262 EC votes. Will Harris win all the other battleground states? Unlikely IMO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,024 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    No I'm having a go at her for not attending the 79th Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner. Things didn't work out well for the last presidential candidate not to attend.

    Trump roasted her over hot coals, serious misjudgement on her part.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,310 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    A trump victory could have huge consequences for FDI in Ireland, the Ukraine war, and European security as a whole. I hope we are prepared at least for the strong possibility of this outcome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,310 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    The Betting markets see it more like 60/40 in favour of Trump at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,553 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    The man is an investor in Ireland himself, so hopefully that encourages him to avoid the Ireland question.

    We don't have an enormous amount of manufacturing jobs created by US firms in Ireland, at least not ones that haven't existed for decades already.

    Anything is on the table however, eventually something will bring the FDI gravy train to a halt in this country, it should be the best prepared for eventuality in this country's history when it does occur. Whatever Trump may or may not do, he's going to be gone in four years anyway if he does get elected.

    Glazers Out!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Things didn't work out well for the last presidential candidate not to attend.

    Who?

    Bill Clinton didn't attend in 1996, guess who won that year?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,024 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Apple isn't too impressed with us I'd imagine, so much so Tim Cook called Trump about it.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj4d75zl212o

    Security not so much of an issue if Trump does what he says and ends the war.

    Our rising cost base, the EU itself wanting the multinationals moved to the bigger EU states and EU over regulation of tech and pharma is more of a threat to FDI than Trump right now.



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    But Trumps plan to end the war won't work though.

    His plan is to just let Putin do as he pleases and demonstrate that the US won't support allies when they get invaded.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The betting markets are useless for predicting an outcome. I don't know how many times this has to be reiterated on thread. 4 anonymous accounts dumped $30M into the market, the odds are not coupled to the actual probabilities of either candidate winning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Aye, that's the betting market, but they don't actually elect the next US president.

    Go find some horse with high odds and place a million bet on it, you will see that horses odds drop dramatically. That doesn't mean by you placing a million on the horse, it's gonna win. It has zero outcome on the result.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    for a year now I’ve been telling people Trump is going to win. As much as I hate it.

    It’s a complete joke. A disaster for the world and we have to all just sit back and watch it happen. The man is dangerous buffoon. He’s a bigot and a charlatan and he’s about to win again.

    Pa, Mi, Wi all even now. The popular vote is in to about 1%. Apparently demagoguery sells. We should all just accept it and move on.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,260 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    This election has always been about a protest vote against “run of the mill” , a “new normal” - losing what was and fearing what is -America is clearly suffering deeply -if the polls are so close, and one of the main contenders can stand in front of a live audience swaying to “granddad “rock”” - for over 1/2 an hour and still be in contention for office- no less all the other stuff he’s alleged to have done or not done-

    …sorry but like - just in Ferris Beullers day off- “it’s over”😀

    To the posters who have posted day in day out non-stop , link after link after reams of text after link after link after reams of text again -shouting Harris praises and shouting down any decent - just what do you think this achieved?

    It’s an Irish website- we’re not “thick”- we certainly don’t need a lecture .we can be completely objective /and hey I’ll do just that …


    This isn’t about Trump or Harris/ it runs far deeper than that. It’s what I said many many pages ago and often in this and a previous election thread / it’s about fear, it’s about loss of identity it’s about uncertainty -that’s what the current polls tell me -

    Harris could promise life on mars and David Bowie singing to people on arrival at this stage - and it won’t change the outcome - Trump or more accurately, the Republicans have this election and there’s nothing anyone can do .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,024 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,725 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    No.. those things happen to people who behave like arseholes.

    I doubt any one in my place of employment has the first clue about my views on any of topics you mentioned earlier.

    Why? Because they have F*ck all to do with my job and bringing them up in conversation in the work place just isn't appropriate.

    And generally speaking people don't like being told that they can't do something just because you don't like it, so if you decide to tell people that they shouldn't be married or have kids (or not have kids) because you think it's wrong , it's not going to win you any popularity contests.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,047 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Oh. Because you specifically mentioned Harris and going to church in your post.

    But obviously what you really meant was not her going to mass, but rather her not attending a dinner a few nights ago.

    Give over.



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