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Sinn Fein and how do they form a government dilemma

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,662 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Louise O'Reilly making a show of herself on "The Week in Politics"

    Claims what MLMD stated in the Dail was 'accurate' at the time given the information they had….

    WTF???

    No need to clarify anything so.

    These clowns are a disgrace.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    At this point they’d be better off just clearing their house. Bring everything out. Who did what to whom, when it was done etc. Tough times for a bit but then they can move on. Better than make a statement this week, lie, have lies found out, make another statement, more lies, rinse..repeat. If they’d ditched MLMD after the local ejections they could also head off some of the fire by taking MLMDs glowing reference for the senator off the table. In any other party MLMD would be gone by now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,662 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    An investigation should be launched as to where the messages were sent from.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    It’s like they’re going out of the way to show us all that they’re all incompetent and there isn’t one trustworthy front bencher between them. Up til this I figured LOR was fairly capable and one of the better ones. Talk about burning years of hard won capital in one week instead of recognising that the problem needs to be fixed from within. Tearing themselves apart from the inside out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭spillit67


    They’ll blame it on some low level person responsible for data input. And Francie will say that shows great leadership. Watch.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭spillit67


    When will Eoin O’Broin come out of hiding?



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Ah it’s been a tough year for him. He was the best boy in the class and had published books even. Then his clever housing plan got laughed out of it once it was aired in the real world. If that wasn’t bad enough he now probably realised he might be a bit clever but fairly stupid in choosing the people he hangs out with. I’d say he’s off having a rethink of his life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,530 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    By helping him get a role with the BHF?

    No, by immediately suspending him from his role and forcing him out of the party. The references to the BHF were unauthorised and the people who did that are gone from the party never to be back.
    I also think C. Murphy did the right thing, took responsibility and apologised for his initial assumption that BHF had not done due diligence. I'm still shocked that a person can find their way into an organisation unvetted like this when there are facilities like AccessNI.

    And I have said that it SHOULD be a legal onus to report to Gardai. It isn't credible to me that a party that wanted to cover this up/keep it private would report it to the PSNI in the first place, that makes no sense to me as a theory.

    Having done all that I fail to see what advantage would have accrued to the party by not reporting it to the Gardai. Do you think had the PSNI charged and prosecuted him the press down here wouldn't have found out? The perp has lost his membership, his career and was put in line for a custodial sentence by SF.

    I also don't get the 16 or 17 year contention. The Gardai could not prosecute him for an offence committed in the north. So whether he was 16 or 17 has no significance to me anyway.

    The person at the centre of this wants a sincere apology and I think they absolutely should get that and if it can't be delivered to the victim's satisfaction she should resign.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 992 ✭✭✭mikep


    He was on PK on Friday for the group shouting session after 11:30.

    Was fairly cranky with Peadar Tobin, and mainly waffled about his fab housing plan but did manage to praise MLMD a few times...

    I wasn't convinced by him but then again, I never am.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭Rosahane


    We could be reading the shinners outrage wrongly… maybe they took the traitors comment to be a reflection on their predominantly planter and garrison ancestry 😳😂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,665 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    She lied to the Dail, the child was 16 and she knew it, she claimed he was 17. What more do you need to know?

    If she doesn't resign, all her words about transparency and accountability are hollow and empty.

    I don't expect her to go, what do you expect?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,530 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Think it was the Sunday TImes that described the housing plan as 'well received' this morning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,665 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Do we know that the offence was committed in the North. The texts may have been sent from the South.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,665 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    O'Donghaile got a great send-off from MLMD.

    McMonagle got references that allowed him to work with children.

    Reporting somebody to the police and making the process sub-judice is a great way of avoiding questions in a general election campaign.

    Something is rotten at the core of Sinn Fein.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,530 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Dammed if they don't and dammed if they do, is an apt reaction here.




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Not by the banks who actually issue mortgages or developers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,768 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    When the does and don'ts aren't two sides of the same thing; and have been at all times calculated to try protect the party over everything else; yes they both need to be damned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,796 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    Well received by sinn feinn supporters maybe. Appears to have sunk without trace at this point.

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,530 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The banks have not, as far as I know, said anything final one way or another.
    Here is one of the biggest developers pointing out that nobody has gotten it all right and all need to do some things differently but also saying there is merit in some of their proposals.

    I also heard Eoin O'Broin debate a developer on RTE radio who said he was right on apartment proposals. Certainly didn't 'laugh# at any aspect of the plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,662 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    The person at the centre of this wants a sincere apology and I think they absolutely should get that and if it can't be delivered to the victim's satisfaction she should resign.

    Given the comments from the victim in the paper today, that he has not had any direct apology from SF, how long should he have to wait?

    A day, a week? And then should MLMD resign if this apology is not received to his satisfaction?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,665 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    As it is paywalled, I can only read the following:

    "One of the country’s biggest housebuilders has raised significant questions over a central element of Sinn Féin’s new housing policy,"

    If he has rasied significant questions about the central element, he hardly supports it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,530 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Trouble reading again?

    I didn't say he 'supported it' I said he said 'there is merit in some of their proposals.'

    Glenveagh, which on Thursday reported “milestone growth” in the first half of 2024 as its order book grew to €1.4 billion, said elements of the opposition party’s housing plan had merit, but cast doubt on others.

    Poster claimed that it was 'laughed at'.
    I think that can be debunked.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    God if that’s so important to you I ready wonder. The banks didn’t deem it even worthy of comment. Glenveigh were likely asked for comment, hedged there bets and just says “well some of it has merit”.
    That’s still a No, but he probably didnt laugh out loud. I’ll give you that. He just had a wry smile on the inside.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,665 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Most Leaving Cert projects have merit in some of their proposals.

    There was no welcoming fanfare to await the Sinn Fein ideas. Why? Because some of them will set things back drastically, and even the ones with small merits will take years to implement and offer marginal change at best. The central proposals were laughed at and then ignored by the banks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,530 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    😁 Housing policy isn’t up to developers to yeh or nay.
    When you have FF complaining to RTE of bias because they have a segment on that has housing experts speaking of the merits in the plan you know there is fear that the idea might go out that plan could work



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,665 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Housing policy must facilitate developers, otherwise private sector housing doesn't get built, or, at the very least, it shouldn't overly restrict them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,530 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    You could say very very few people spend over 10 years trying to get the answers right in the Leaving Cert.
    You guys are exaggerating again, bar government parties and supporters predictably laughing, the proposals as the Sunday Times said were ‘well received’.

    P.S. that doesn’t mean that like the decade long existing policies in place that there aren’t valid criticisms that need addressing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,768 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The Curates Egg response - "some merit" - does not mean well received. Unless there's another report of it's reception somewhere, the mark has been overstepped by that journalist



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 992 ✭✭✭mikep


    Realistically though..the SF housing plan won't be government policy any time soon.

    EOB can go back to self publishing his books..



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Yeah they weee quaking in their shoes no doubt. Honestly the average listener could see through it but even so the backs wouldn’t finance it. I’d rather think SF were quaking but they were just deluded as we have now found out.



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