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Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,019 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Republican congresswoman, Marjorie Taylor Greene, is trying to get in early on the claims that voting machines are deliberately flipping votes toward the Democratic ticket.

    Elon Musk appears to be at the same business but his accusations are a little less pointed. He'd probably be a bit less likely to have Dominion therefore go after him, although he could certainly absorb the financial hit. Don't know about MTG.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-dominion-marjorie-taylor-greene-b2631928.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    Musk thinks people should only vote in person. The same Musk that was pushing people to vote by mail.

    The guy is a spoofer. He's following the money or whatever tax break/deal he's been promised. I wouldn't be listening to him for election advise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,439 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    One word: "Robotaxi".

    If they stand any chance of being released in the next 4 years, it will certainly not happen with democrats controlling the laws and safety elements around autonomous vehicles.

    No chance whatsoever.

    However, with Trump in charge, he could make Musk transport secretary and bish, bash, bosh... All the legal and safety hurdles will just stop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,019 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Musk has so much money that, if America is as beholden to lobbyists as they say, he could buy whatever political concessions he wants.

    Musk's money cannot buy him a likeable personality, however, so I suspect that the reason he's stumping for Trump is that he's been rejected as a pop cultural figure by the more liberal side of American society, so getting cheered by MAGA is the best facsimile of genuine admiration that he's going to get.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,439 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    You can choose to see the breakdown by party, age, gender.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,721 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    The "genius who designs rockets but is also fun and likes memes" act is not fooling liberals anymore so he's shifted his to a dumber audience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,399 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I understand that, but how do they know the age/sex/party affliction of the ballot?

    Do they open the ballot, count and keep a tally? As in it's not a poll, it's the actual results?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,439 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Well, they know who asked for them, maybe it has the sender's details on the outside of the envelope, so they can be checked? I don't believe they're counted until Nov 5th.

    Remember Trump with his whole, "We were winning and then they got all these 'mail in' ballots. Where did they come from?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,399 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    They wouldn't or shouldn't know the sender's party affiliation nor their age. Sex could be estimated based on name and title I guess. I;m just curious is all. I understand how the mail in votes get added after the in day voting and they tend to favor democrats etc… just wondering how they determine the age, sex and party affiliation on the mail in ballots before they are officially counted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,439 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Why? What's so bad about having that info?

    If their name is on the back of the envelope, it would be easy to cross check that off, and gain all that information, without knowing what their vote contains.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,399 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I'm not saying is bad. I'm only asking how they produce the figures. It's a lot of cross checking to be doing and announcing, before even opening and counting the ballot.

    If there was an independent running for the 'loony party' and they only had 1 registered voter…. well, going by the details provided, that person could be identified, not with 100% certainty though.

    I guess they can also cross reference from previous years to see if the same people are doing postal votes, if it's more newer voters and their ages, to see more of a trend. A young, newly signed up member of a party should be less likely to vote against the party they signed up to. So if young people (especially females) are planning on voting for Harris, that should all be quite visible in the postal ballots already?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,794 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    All I can say is I admire your chutzpah. If I had been revealed to be a deceitful plagiarist who gets their opinions from conspiracy theory twitter accounts, I’d never be seen again.

    Shame needs to make a comeback.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Notice though how there's no more attempts to defend the claims about Harris' Fox interview.

    That claim was dropped. Just like the claim that it was a cunning trap by Fox.

    As this current point about her support in different demographics will be dropped once it's challenged and we find out the source is another Alex Jones believer or something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,778 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    https://x.com/juliadavisnews/status/1847775487692796089?s=46&t=I5Ng64p4m8u3ocgC9fbhIA
    what a classy man



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,643 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    I thought this was satire when I saw it in the political cartoon thread. Then I looked it up.

    It's true. Beyond weird. Like the RVAT article I linked to yesterday where one of them said, "I wouldn't want him near my children never mind as POTUS."

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-kicks-off-pennsylvania-rally-002407246.html



  • Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They use declared party affiliation to estimate where the ballots will go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭Dingaan


    Silicon Valley is polarising, with many tech leaders moving right. So much for the 'dumber audience' narrative—facts clearly don’t support that. It’s almost too easy to dismantle the lies being posted on this thread.

    Screenshot_20241020-081328.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,961 ✭✭✭accensi0n




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,329 ✭✭✭Field east


    most worrying for me re Trump’s term as president and since then is his efforts and utterances re ‘cosying’ up to Putin, Kim, ORBAN and suchlike. We also should not forget that a lot of his ‘senior staff’ are of a like mind



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,643 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    If you're claiming the OP meant the silicon valley leaders moving to Trump were dumb, I think you've misunderstand their point. He's talking about the audience Eloon is after. Eloon's doing this for the reason's posted previously - to get goodies from Convicted Felon Trump should he get elected, which Eloon doesn't think he'll get from a Harris presidency.

    If more Silicon valley types are shifting conservative, well, 1) They're businesspeople 2) A lot of them are aging too. Gates and Buffett, however, aren't going anywhere, and I suspect with their fortunes. Melinda Gates and Brin's ex are involved in this election, too, on the left. Melinda's supposedly donating hundreds of millions to shift state-level elections towards the Democratic party.

    Likewise, Steve Ballmer's funded a nonpartisan facts site discussing immigration and other issues.

    https://usafacts.org/



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,604 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    if you get someone’s name, you have all that information in the US. There is no GDPR, all the data that’s private here is easily accessible there.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I don't think any poster is particularly oblivious to that. This doesn't change the fact he's promoting conspiracy theories with no basis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,329 ✭✭✭Field east


    I understand that a majority of ‘big businesses ‘ are republican leaning and one way to influence the election outcome is to place bets on a Trump win. So when you have the likes of Musk on your side with millions of dollars -pin money to him- available for betting and the betting industry is largely influenced by the way and amount people are placing on bets

    ONE DOES NOT NEED A PHd ON THE BETTING INDUSTRY TO SEE HOW VERY LARGE BETS CAN INFLUENCE HOW PEOPLE MIGHT VOTE OR MAYBE DECIDE To NOT VOTE

    People placing very large bets are , IMO, , placing them to win the election for their canditate and not to make money



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,329 ✭✭✭Field east


    “—— poor reflection on Harris——-“. The facts DO NOT back this up. If the Republican canditate had two heads, pink hair , three arms, Two big and 4 small spurs, was jet black, only spoke Arabic, is female, etc, etc, etc she would still get close to doing well in the election . Why? Because there is a cohort of the US voting public out there that will ALWAYS vote for the republican canditate - the find the democratic side REPULSIVE to put it mildly.

    Remember, remember Trump just about got in when against H. Clinton - after she/ the democrats ran a disasterous campaign re 2016 election. Biden nearly scraped in in the 2020 election. And as of today whichever of two get in will also nearly scrape in, IMO.



  • Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Billinaire vote republican - who would have guessed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,329 ✭✭✭Field east


    So it’s not because of the nature/Style/PAST RECORD of the canditate up against Trump - and she must be useless if not doing well against Trump according to Cliffhangover - it is LARGELY to do with The WE will always vote republican NO MATTER WHAT



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,329 ✭✭✭Field east


    Once the election is over - and he wins- he will have no problem with his energy level and mental health once he can get out on the golf course. I can see him spending more time on golf thei time then he did the last time. After all he will be THE BOSS



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,339 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    The shift to the right from the silicon valley types was attributed to Biden not having an interest in or understanding of AI.

    There has been some reconsideration of these positions as of course they shift and polls and the like are just a still photo of a moment.

    Youd probably have to question anyway just how important it would be in terms of the presidential race given it seemed to peak blue in 2016 - or the day they did the analysis in 2016 anyway.

    The US economy is booming, the tech companies are way ahead and the people in that field will follow whatever they think is better for their bottom line, wouldn't say it tells you much outside of that with regard to intelligence.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,339 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Pretty large cohort of that voting block would vote for an inanimate carbon rod if you put a big R next to its name on a graphic yeah. I'm sure the same could be said for a big cohort of the Democrats voting block but they have shown historically to be less of a sure thing in that regard tbh.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,329 ✭✭✭Field east


    A high probability that Trump - if elected - may not serve the full term. Could be as short as one year so if the voters vote in Trump they are really voting for Vance. So should the Democrats highlight this if the general voter sees him negatively?



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