Israel are going to start WWIII

Actually please dont ask him to do that.

Well that’s a bit weird because the Nazis are considered to be guilty of genocide - and that was around the same time.

Also, the Armenian genocide, whose legal status is a bit less clear but that’s because the Turks didn’t commit it all to paper and hence have some plausible deniability, was decades before that again.

And of course it was the Ottoman Empire, a monarchy, under whose rule this happened. Which was succeeded by the much smaller and much different, both politically and culturally, Turkish Republic in the early 1920s. I reckon the Turkish Republic is official legal successor, not sure. Todays Türkiye wants nothing to do with it anyway.

Provocation does speak to intent though - if you just starting murdering people for sh*ts and giggles (like Russia seems to be doing) that should be seen a little differently to actions one takes because they're stuck in an all out war.

As for Israel not kidnapping children, the fact is that Israel is a multi-racial nation, Israeli Jews have ancestries all over the Middle East and worldwide (Europe, the Far East, even Africa) so that would not be an issue. They could - if they were genocidal - kidnap a large portion of children, e.g. newborns, bring them across the border and have them adopted by Jewish families to be raised as Jews.

Is your first sentence based on an analysis of the legal definitions of provocation and intent? If so, I'd like to see a source for that.

How can lads arrive in from other counties, kill and evict people who are "genetically … almost indistinguishable" from them, and claim a greater right to that land?????

Hey lads, we're genetically the same so we have the same ancestors. But I have more right to this land because I had certain more recent ancestors that fecked off elsewhere hundreds of years ago.

Ah come off it. You know yourself, Hamas and Hezbollah are a great bunch of lads altogether. Just like us Irish, right?

In all seriousness, this war should have ended months ago. I have been saying this here for months now.

As a reminder, this was the address Netanyahu made to the world a year ago.

His war aims were extremely clear from the outset.

Either Israel wins, or Hamas wins. There is no scenario where both side exit the war on good terms.

As a second reminder, despite their leader being brutally slain, Hamas are still fighting, and still engaged in their war of annihilation against the Jews.

If Hamas won't surrender, then Israel will continue to exterminate the remnants of Hamas. This is the important bit. Hamas are still defiant!

I use my words very deliberately in this instance.

Extermination is a word you would use to describe attacking a sickness, a disease, a pestilence.

Hamas is a sickness, it's a disease, it's a cancer, it should be eradicated at all costs.

As well as continuing the slaughter of civilians in both Gaza and Lebanon, Israel abandons its own people.

Haaretz
Ali Alziadana, brother of Youssef Alziadana, who was abducted from a dairy farm in Kibbutz Holit along with his sons Hamza and Bilal and his daughter Aisha, feels the public struggle for a hostage deal has reached a standstill. 'We talked, we shouted, we cried out – and no one is listening,' he says. 'I feel invisible. 

When your own country doesn't listen to you, it hurts the most because it's home, and then you just don't know what to do

'" – Eden Solomon

• Protests demanding the release of hostages held in Gaza, along with demonstrations against the current government, are set to take place on Saturday evening in multiple locations across Israel.
  
• In a joint statement outside the defense ministry and ahead of the protests, the families of hostages said that "the goal of the war – creating conditions for the return of hostages – has been achieved; now we must secure a deal to bring everyone home."

Human rights legislation largely didn't exist in 1939-45. One of the main reasons it began to come into existence was in the wake of the war. The fire bombing of Hamburg, Dresden and Tokyo would definitely be seen as serious war crimes in the current era, as civilians were deliberately targeted.

I must have missed that. Tell me again which of us were here first. Please don’t talk in riddles.

Unfortunately Francie, your posts on the topic on boards.ie might not be quite that influential. Mr. Netanyahu said way back at that start of this that the ending of Hamas would not be the end of the murdering. They already had other groups lined up and mentioned that they needed to take care of next.

Of course, I could be wrong. The zionists might well indeed place more weight on your posts than Mr. Netenyahoooo's pronouncements on the matter -"Netanyahooo said we have to keep going, but some lad posting on boards.ie said we would stop when Hamas were defeated so we better listen to him instead"

So like deja vu, we have the US Sec Def saying the civilian casualties in Beruit are 'far too high'. We've heard it all before in Gaza and still we have people on here championing Israel on and they can do no wrong etc…

So how exactly can Hamas be neutralised without an all-out war?

People took a bigger hit (financially) when the EU decided to sanction Russia, but any talk of similar with Israel is met with push back. Not even push back, in their eyes, Israel or the IDF cannot and have not done any wrong at all. All those specific cases where civilians were targeted and killed are just ignored by them. If you can ignore one case, you can ignore 2, then a dozen, then when a refugee camp gets bombed, they wouldn't even bat an eyelid.

Another example of the IDF targetting civilians who were trying to help others. This one sounds like it's right out of the same playbook as when they massacred the World Central Kitchen charity workers.

They just murder and MURDER and MURDER with impunity.

It is maddening.

I strongly believe that Joe Biden's name will be blackened in the history books for allowing this evil to continue unchecked.