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Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    In North Carolina, Mark "Black Nazi" Robinson can nowadays barely fill up a conference room and he has to do it with a free meal for attendees.

    In this case, an attendee's blood sugar monitor went off, which caught Robinson's attention, leading to this exchange, where Robinson was asked why he doesn't push for an insulin affordability bill, pointing out that only Democrats are pushing affordable insulin (Biden got it down to $35 for Medicare recipients)

    In response, Robinson denies that Republicans tried to block their efforts to make insulin affordable, then he tries to shut up the voter. "Nobody came here to see you so please be quiet"

    Can barely get a room full of people together, much less a rally, and getting into fights and shooing voters away.

    Robinson is going to get creamed this election, which is going to be detrimental to Republican turnout up and down the ballot.

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/mark-robinson-fires-back-at-diabetic-voter-for-asking-about-insulin-costs-nobody-came-to-see-you/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Dingaan


    You must have missed quite a bit today. There have been plenty of posts claiming everything from a comfortable Harris win to a landslide. We even had people dismiss polling methodology without providing a single substantiated reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I don't think anyone thinks we're anything close to a shoe in. Saying that polling might be overcompensating for either candidate or not capturing all groups accurately isn't particularly outlandish. We've learned that it can and does get things wrong. I find it somewhat funny that you're getting hung up on substantiating claims while fawning over the man who pushes conspiracy theories on a daily basis.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,114 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    quote me a post claiming it’ll be a comfortable or a landslide please.

    Some posters are convinced shell win. I haven’t seen anyone claim the above.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,331 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I read most, but I have alot of users on Ignore so I do not read those ones.

    You have said that in fairness to you.

    I was merely highlighting that Donnelly a staunch Democrat doesnt think highly of Harris and he believes the momentum is with Trump.

    The media induced sugar high of August has worn off.

    This is in stark contrast to whats been said on here the last few days, the myth of how Trump is somehow running scared of Harris who is aceing her interviews.

    People stating where will Trumps extra votes come from. He can't increase his ceiling.

    CNN had a poll earlier in the week that showed Trumps margin among men was +12pts over Harris, it was +5pts on Biden in 2020.

    There is no swing among female voters over 2020, +13pts to Biden or Harris.

    The Democrats margin among black men is down 15pts on 2020.

    Trumps vote among Latinos is also up and I'd wager he will win back a good bit of the older voters too that deserted him in 2020 over Covid as its no longer an issue.

    Will enough angry young female voters turn up to outweigh the movement among male voters, well thats the big question.

    Personally I don think it will.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Early voting would massively disagree with your last statement. Angry women both young and old are turning out at nearly doubled the rate of angry young men. Maybe the men haven't really got anything to be angry about ?

    Its funny how you managed to miss the bit about high women turnout in your partial assessment of the CNN report.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    Which Alex Jones supporting Twitter user did you borrow it from?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Not even joking, any more than a few lines and I'm assuming it's ripped from Twitter. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,094 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    If a senior person on his campaign team was really concerned about Trump's ability to keep up with the pressures of the election campaign, would Trump be persuaded to take supplements to keep up his performance levels which, after a certain time, could have a contrary effect on him making his behaviour seem uncoordinated or strange?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Possibly. Would explain the apparent musical euphoria he experienced and disassociation with the context of his surroundings he displayed during his musical sway session “love-in.” Might even explain the slurring he’s exhibited at various times sometimes it’s under control sometimes it’s alarmingly noticeable. Nobody has even bothered to try and suggest eg. He’s slurring as a 4D chess tactic that’s for sure. Today again on the tarmac in Michigan he filibustered when reporters asked him to release his medical history. He referenced how he “aced” his “cognitive test” 4+ years ago (the one doctors formatted to screen for dementia)



  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This is a weird angle to take.

    You were the one who was stealing from a far right conspiracy cranks Twitter feed. That is why people are pointing that out. It's not an accusation that is applied to everyone as you seem to be implying here.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Have had a postal vote for ages in the UK myself, but I would like to turn up on election day recently so that I could take the kid in to see what's going on and how it all works... But then we have multiple polling stations within a mile of the house and the only queuing is to pose dogs infront of the "Polling Station" sign for the dogs at polling stations twitter thread.

    For the likes of the US where they actively try to make it as difficult as possible to vote in some parts, people absolutely should be turning up early.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Dingaan


    Don't believe everything you read, and especially from a source like Mediaite. It's a trash rag!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    They haven't plagiarized anything have they?

    Let me know if you can drum up a reason why you think something they have reported was false and not worth believing. They do an excellent job of sticking to reports on that which can be proven with evidence.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,094 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I didn't even look at the source. I just know that he is an elderly gent who is undergoing a very stressful exercise period in his life, having survived one assassination attempt and narrowly escaped a second. He's hopping around the US on the campaign trail sometimes doing two stops a day. If he's not on supplements of a approved regulated kind under doctor's advice to keep going under the stress of the campaign and threat level, he's a human of an alternative kind. Edit: hell, he isn't even allowed his usual form of relaxation now of golfing because it makes him an open ground target risk to an assassin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I'm rapidly beginning to think that Trump's health is the October surprise, seeing multiple different publications discussing his general exhaustion tonight. But that's pretty much all been kicked off by his dj session the other day. His energy levels are simply collapsing. If it was a normal election cycle with any other candidate, I'd feel sorry for him.

    Honestly two weeks from Tuesday can't come fast enough at this stage.



  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I want your ideas about what is causing his erratic behaviour, his vocal slurring and his zoning out to music. Surely you have an opinion on what's happening to Trump.

    Or is having that sort of opinion above your pay grade ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭badabing106


    Where are you getting your info?

    He was in Michigan earlier today and now he is in Detroit campaigning



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Except he has cancelled loads of events and they've been mentioned multiple times in last few days...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭Repo101


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,094 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    What I'm absolutely uncertain about at this late stage of the electioneering [and therefore unwilling to rely on any answer I'd get from a question I'd "google" for] is how the US would get itself out of a bind if Trump stood aside [like Biden did] and the GOP had to supply new nominees for both positions as Vance would have to either move up or stand aside as well?

    Is there a date limit set by election law where nominees for both election positions absolutely have to be put forward by parties and/or proposers?

    What does US law say about such a outcome if Trump was suddenly obliged to step aside after the date had passed by beyond which a replacement nominee could be proposed by the GOP to avoid the problem where only one party would have nominees for the two positions?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,825 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    It's an interesting question and seems to have been covered here:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/05/what-happens-presidential-candidate-trump-biden-dies

    I guess it's the one situation where having an electoral college makes sense. If the majority vote for Trump/Vance but Trump is dead/replaced (as per GOP guidelines) the electoral college could vote for the replacement on the ticket etc…

    Then again could a rogue electoral college assign their votes to a ficus tree if they wanted?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    so you have no explanation only link dumps. To a habitual liar. Who has canceled half a dozen interviews and events.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    having canceled his appearances on Black podcasts, cut short his Dan Bongino podcast, spent all morning on the Fox couch, run away from 60 minutes, run away from a second debate, even one on Fox. Run away from a recently scheduled NBC interview. Run away from a recently scheduled CNBC interview with a sympathetic host.

    I get my info from opening my eyes. You can see specifically from where in my earlier posts today 👀📖



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    most states have laws stipulating how electors must ministrate their votes.

    In fact only a few more states need to join a compact among several states in which they agree by state law to assign all their votes to the winner of the popular vote and from then on the winner of the presidency would only be decided by national popular vote (providing the states in the compact maintain their population spread and thus, electoral votes)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,825 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Ok, that rules out the ficus, but if a presidential nominee died and/or his VP etc.. and the party decided to nominate new candidates and the ballots were already printed and votes cast etc… would the electoral college be justified in assigning the electoral college votes to the new candidates? (assuming they win the majority within the state)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    depends on the state electoral laws but presumably yes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,825 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I think it's the only one reedeming reason for the electoral colleges. Kinda means your vote for the party stays with the party.



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