Israel are going to start WWIII

All you've done is submit screeds and have refused to answer a straightforward question in a straightforward manner.

The question is a yes or no one.

Do you agree with the statement that Israel is the only nation that is wiping a people and their land off the map?

The closest you've gotten to actually answering that question is with "Israel settles more and more land illegally from the Palestinian people." which is one line in a long winded non-reply that included lots of obfuscation on matters that you weren't even asked about.

So, we'll all take that as a "yes" shall we?

Sociopaths tend to sleep rather soundly.

I don't think you got my point there...

I presume for you the October attacks killing 1k people was a terrible crime by those terrorists Hamas , but the 30k killed people in gaza aren't the same or worse yes? Because their lives matter less I presume is it? Israeli and palestinean civilian lives aren't comparable and therefore Bibi and the IDF aren't terrorists like Hamas

All life has the same worth.

War is not a nice thing, pity that some choose to start them and force others to fight back, not much use complaining that they have been outfought.

More weight because they are only muslims. Never denied.

Hamas started a war and had to be destroyed as a threat, that has an additional cost, like all wars in civilian lives, due to the technical advantage Israel can keep that low but it is still going to be sizeable.

That's just the unfortunate reality of war and life.

It's not a we balanced out the scale. It is win or lose, that's all.

Hamas had a choice, release the hostages and surrender all it's men and arms or be destroyed by the IDF.

That's the only consideration.

this post kind of sums up the pro hamas mindset, Fcuk them just some filty jews right kaiser ?

your eulogising a mass murdering animal and fanatical cultist like he was a hero, He was not a friend of the people of gaza he was a leading part of the gang that kept its boot on them , you were as much a target for him as any jew

He was technically the political leader of Hamas, not the military leader of the armed wing. Sinwar did the political strategising, Dief along with his deputy was said to be the military mastermind behind the October 7th attacks

The political leaders, whether they are state or non state actors, tend not to be on the battlefield. He was no hero as far as I am concerned .

He is thought to have murdered several people in his lifetime, including a guy who he accused of fraud and of being a homosexual.

The heroes are the people in absolutely deplorable conditions risking their lives to give medical aid and food to others.

I always find these types of posts a bit of an insight into a poster's mind.

So you're from a Palestinian family, you've been downtrodden your whole life, maybe some of your family members have been killed by the conflict.

You find yourself caught up in events of October the 7th, you're in a Kibbutz in Israel with an AK47 in your hand and an old Jewish lady on the ground pleading with you for her life.

Are you going to riddle her to bits in full auto because of the above?

You find yourself at the Nova festival, with your green HAMAS headband on, same AK47 in your hand. Are you going to start lobbing grenades at helpless Jewish early twenty something party goers?

God forbid, will you be one of the guys pulling down the underwear of some of the Jewish girls?

Because no matter what way you put it, you are saying there are events you could experience in life which would lead you to murdering innocent people.

Can I put myself 100% in the shoes of Gazas? No and I'm not sure many here genuinely could.

Can I stand by the statement that I am fairly confident I won't rape and murder unarmed people because of 'my struggles?' - I'm fairly sure I can answer yes to that question.

You apparently, cannot.

Hamas didn't exist when the war began in 1940s (even earlier some might argue). They are a reaction to israeli aggression, not a justification for it.

israel could use its technical advantage to keep civilian casualties low, but civilian casualties are extremely high, with deliberate attacks on schools, hospitals, refugee camps and humanitarian workers so we must conclude it deliberately chooses to kill those civilians.

And you're conceding the point about the value of human life because you've moved off into some other argument.

Fine then. You keep a score if that makes you happy.

Ffs man. He downplayed the deaths and numbers of the innocents in gaza so I sarcastically said it back to prove a point. Read between the lines. But I suppose you lot aren't capable of critical thinking

I'm sorry to say Mr High and Mighty that the "social experiment" in Gaza proves that the vast vast majority of people in there support Hamas or joined Hamas. So had you grown up and lived there you are statically very very likely to have supported it or done it.

What's the excuse for the IDF soldiers murdering raping and torturing tens if thousands ?

As fas as I recall, Abbas and the Palestinian Authority were very much in favour of a two state solution and were gaining a lot of ground on the matter 17 years ago. That's why Netanyahu etc started supporting Hamas in Gaza in an effort to stymie the PA and divide the Palestinians, thus eliminating the possibility of a two state solution, which Israel has absolutely no interest in.

In fact, in September 2023, Abbas said that a UN meeting on the matter "may be the last opportunity to salvage the two-state solution and to prevent the situation from deteriorating more seriously and threatening the security and stability of our region and the entire world".

You would think posters would in general against slaughtering innocent civilians. That is one of the many reasons why Hamas are also bad.

It seems the policy of the Israelis is to kill civilians for a few more months and then shrink the remaining inhabitants in a destroyed area into a shrinked down Gaza.