Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

It got the traction right wingers wanted I suppose.

How many false accusations have they thrown out now.

I don't think it got any real traction as only an obscure India based site picked it up. Still nothing on fox or Newsmax et al from what I can see and if they aren't touching it after 3 days it must have nothing behind it.

I saw some reports that there was apparently medical attention required to one or two people in the crowd, so the pause in questions and just listening to music was for that.

However, Trump then just kept it going. For over half an hour. And then left.

So either Trump used it as an excuse to not answer any more questions, or if the medical attention required was serious, Trump stood on stage for over half an hour swaying to music in front of it like a psychopath.

But the indigenous population weren't united they were all different tribes with different languages etc, so who's to say one group wouldn't have tried to get rid of all their rivals if they were capable of it.

There's this myth being pushed (which she played into in her speech) that somehow the America's were a land of peace and love and then the white man arrived and ruined it all, which of course isn't true at all, but it plays up to the White Man Bad everyone else Good politics the democrats have been pushing over the past decade.

You can accept the european colonists treated the indigenous tribes disgracefully and yet point out that if someone else beat them to colonising america things wouldn't have been any different.

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This guy could literally soil himself on stage and all you'll get is crickets.

You won't be getting an answer. The next thing on the block for them is any perceived slip up from Kamala on the Fox interview later.

Really bad faith and predictable.

Yeah, I'm sure they'll jump on any excuse to claim she's a poor speaker, not fit for office, suffering mental fatigue from the campaign, and just a low IQ individual if she so much as mispronounces a word. A word like, oh off the top of my head…. Arizonians…

I find it facinating that some MAGA supporters might wonder why rest of the world would regard their group as being lousy with racism, and then we get a Trump supporter on here essentially echoing something along the lines of "White Man tamed the Savage World!"

Also, if you actually read the early history of European attempts to colonise North America, it was a cavalcade of constant dismal failure. Colonies would be wiped out by new illnesses, lack of resources making them dependant on imports from Europe, and in one case a failed colony in Panama bankrupted Scotland. (It's part of the reason an independant Scotland went into union with England in 1707). They had to keep throwing bodies at the continent until eventially some towns managed to stick around long enough to maintain a footing. But the hubrus and inexperience of the European powers had killed a lot of their own people in the process.

The 1800s are pretty much what killed off a lot of Native Americans. Prior to this, the Old West was mostly their domain since they knew how to successfully live there. The dawn of the Industrial Revolution and railways was part of what doomed them. The new US had inherited a load of space that they wanted to use, and they had the metal to take it by force.

Claiming that the White Man was somehow superior to the Native Americans is a classic case of the winners writing history, and these days a blatant sign of a racist point of view. Although in some cases we arn't that suprised anymore when we see which part of the "political" spectrum this comes from.

Or Covfefe?

It’s too much campaigning for his mind and body to handle, too much pressure.
If he wins there is a good chance Vance will replace him during his term or maybe he will just spend his presidency in Mar a largo….

ABC and NBC are the bell weathers, the theory is that they had been over sampling Demorcats in their polls and now is about the time they need to start reflecting reality to keep their credibility , her numbers dropped 5ish points a no news week

Some tribes were united, for example the The Six Nations Iroquois Confederacy. This provided many ideas and policies which influenced parts of the US Constitution and democracy framework.

Vance might be socially 'retarded', but I'm sure he is very smart in other ways. He can see what is going on with trump, and not long after if he elected I'm sure they will have him sectioned. It's not like they will be short of evidence. trump is just an empty vessel at this stage.

It's part of the current narrative that MAGA likely want to push. It's the probable prelude to the new #StoptheSteal.

Lately there has been an increase in GOP funded / leaning polls releasing their data. This data almost always gives Trump an edge, even in cases where he doesn't actually have one. But the result of that is that aggrigator sites will count them in the overall result, and that result is tightening becuase of it.

At this stage, the only poll that matters at all is the one in November, but by creating a narritive that Harris' support "collapsed" there is likely a hope by those involved to present a "valid" grievence should Trump lose again. "He didn't lose look at the polling in October!!" Rinse and repeat.

This is why they bother lying…to support the Bigger Lie coming down the road.