Sinn Fein and how do they form a government dilemma

It’s not a comparison to the early 1900’s. FG & FF eulogised people who maimed and killed from the 1920’s to the present day. They did not observe a hiatus while people were still alive.

Now you want a hiatus observed.

Self serving? Hypocritical? Yeh.

Again you are deliberately not comprehending the distinction

Is there any member of the oireachtas outside of SF (&2 T.d's of SF gene pool) venerating people who have killed in Ireland while they were alive ?

Its a distinction nonetheless

This is all off topic anyway

SF's veneration of the provisionals is not the deal breaker in them entering a coalition

What 'a certain vote' is involved here to bring you to that conclusion ?

The chairman and secretary of the T.D's cumann resigned and 9 others due to a vetting of questions to Mary Lou row

" * Asked about Ms Ryan’s comments on KFM that questions to the leadership were “vetted”, Mr Greaves said: “There was a meeting at the Osprey Hotel in Naas which Mary Lou McDonald was to attend, a ‘rally the troops’ exercise to raise morale among the activists. The comhairle ceantair asked who was going to go, but then they wanted to know what questions we would be asking so that no one would be asking inappropriate or embarrassing questions. We questioned that, because it came across as censorship.”

Cumann secretary Aaron Sheppard, who has also resigned, said the request came across to him as an attempt to “silence” grassroots members.

In response to queries, a Sinn Féin spokesman said: “We were aware there were issues in the constituency. There were no formal complaints made. The party attempted to resolve the issues arising through mediation and discussion. This was not successful. We don’t believe there was vetting of questions.”

When the content of the messages was put to the party, a spokesman said that “if what is alleged did transpire, that was inappropriate”.

Mr Sheppard said a “disconnect” had developed between the party and grassroots members in recent months and claimed a “nasty” environment had spread across the Sinn Féin structures in Kildare South.

Supporters of Ms Ryan, who was elected to the Dáil in 2020, also believe she was being forced out by the party in favour of other candidates for the forthcoming general election. * "

May as well shut down this thread if Francie has given up.hope then it seemz they have no chance of being in Goverment.

I wonder how much of an impact that perception has on SFs newer voters. Particularly those under 30 and the rest of the electorate that drove SF support to no 1 in the country.

I dont think connections to NI would play much of a role here.

What do people think are the main reasons for SFs slide in support?

Long term I think they are making the right decisions tbh.

It would be disastrous to go in to government with a swathe of support you cannot please.

To stay in government IMO you need to have support that understands clearly what it is they are supporting.

Possible, but for the moment my opinion is as stated.
As my main interest is in ending power swapping or being shared between FF and FG I'll keep an eye on opportunities to see that happen.

yea its gonna be a very bad ge for them, mlmd will be heaved after it, and rightfully so

im not so sure about that, the current situation will upset many, many critical floaters, so….

I am not sure there is another alternative to FFG for the forseeable, outside of SF/FF, which is looking less and less likely now and was never really likely anyway.

I dont think there is another existing party that could grow to the size of the big three.

People will vote independent in greater numbers, but that counts for little as independents are not part of a cohesive party. Even if independents as a collective had more seats than any party, they still would not lead a govt because they are too disparate.

All in all, very difficult to see past FFG in the short or medium term, at least.

ah yea, many undecided floaters will very likely move away from sf now, moving more so back towards ffg, and others of course, the fundamentals of sf's current situation have a tendency to cause strong reactions from people, issues of a sexual nature, so sf are toast….

…again, its the nature of their current situation, so….

yes, floaters would also be concerned about the issues you mentioned, but the strong emotional nature will cause many to run from sf now, so….

yup, their policies have been weak to say the least, and their flip flopping wouldnt be giving people confidence, so more reasons to run away…

…so ffg it is, and for a long time to…..

we talking about the same bloke?

A SINN FÉIN member resigned from the party after allegedly sending inappropriate messages to a 17-year-old, it has emerged.

The party member was suspended by Sinn Féin in September 2023 and the incident was referred to the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) and social services.

The member subsequently resigned from the party, as first reported by the Irish Independent

In a statement, a spokesman for the party said: “Sinn Féin received a complaint on September 11 2023 regarding messages sent by a party member to a 17-year-old member of the party.

“In line with the party’s child protection guidelines the person concerned was suspended.

“On September 27, the PSNI informed the party they were not carrying out a formal investigation into the matter and indicated support for the actions the party had taken both from their perspective and that of the young person’s family.

“The individual subsequently resigned from the party.”

In a statement, a spokesman for the PSNI confirmed that the matter was referred to the police service in September 2023.

“Safeguarding assessments and engagement with other statutory bodies were conducted at that time. No formal complaint from any person was received,” the statement added.

Latest controversy 

The news comes as Sinn Féin remains under scrutiny over how it handled the Michael McMonagle controversy.

Last month, McMonagle (42) from Limewood Street, Derry, admitted a series of offences, including attempting to incite a child to engage in sexual activity. He will be sentenced in November.

He was first arrested in August 2021 and Sinn Féin said it suspended him as soon as it became aware of the police investigation.

His term of employment with Sinn Fein at the Assembly formally ended in July 2022.

McMonagle then went on to get a job with the British Heart Foundation (BHF), which did not know he was under investigation for child sex offences.

Taken from The Journal. Sorry I cannot copy the link

Give her right wing position on immigration, I wonde if she tried to join Fine Gael? She would have been given a strong platform to blame all the problem in Kildarw on immigrants within FG.